Chris Harris Pits the Mustang GT500 Against the Camaro ZL1



by John Coyle

This isn't the first time these two all-American bruisers have been compared, but it's the first time that Chris Harris has done it, which is reason enough to watch it. Initially, he takes both beasts for a spin around the streets of New York City--accurately described as "the worst place on earth to drive a car"--and then up to the track for some of the sideways action he's famous for. Most of the time we get a video from Harris, he's flogging some uber-expensive European sports cars, so I was pumped to get his take on some of our native sheetmetal. Check out the video to find out which car comes out on top.

Mark Dellacqua (Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:05:10 -0700): I don't care what foriegners think about American muscle cars because frankly they don't get it and I doubt if they ever will. They not only lack any real understanding of the American muscle car, but the subculture as well." Dignified as a M3"- it's comments like this that confirms that they don't get it. 15 minutes of video and "limey" BS and they never take the car to the dragstrip for numbers, HELLO, these are American muscle cars and you just wasted 15 minutes of video by not going to the dragstrip. That's the last word on American muscle cars- 1/4 mile run. Everything else is secondary. I told you that they don't get it and there's your proof. Unless your GM and your desperate to get the attention off of the fact that the GT 500 is not just faster than the ZL1, but that it's extermely faster than the ZL1 and any media story that does not focus on that fact is a plus for GM. Sad but true.
Charles Manantan (Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:25:30 -0700): Pretty ignorant post... Not everyone is a straight line / left turning / ignorant / narrow minded redneck. Gairly plainly says these are beasts that rep a great value and fun factor that well beyond the comp priced BMW...
Rich Dennis (Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:11:53 -0700): Take that Camaro!
Earl Grylls (Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:41:45 -0700): Im a Ford driver through and through (Im on my 4th Mustang and planning a '13 GT500 myself) but your assumption that the GT500 is faster is wrong in some cases. In the 3 runs I've seen through the curves, the ZL1 has been quicker by a fairly significant margin. However...given I've been driving mustangs for 15 years straight... 99% of the races Ive been in are in a straight line and so while I don't like to paint broad strokes, your presumption that the GT500 is faster I'll agree with in most of the races that count (straight line.) Its when you have to turn that the ZL1 shows it's a more mature car. As for your comments regarding foreigners...seriously?? They may not understand our culture but that doesnt mean that they cannot appreciate a muscle car and value. Time and again this "limey" was saying that they both outstripped in the BMW in fun and value.
Daniel Bente (Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:47:37 -0700): I'm a diehard Ford man and always will be. While this guy seems to have ferreted out the strengths and weaknesses of these two American Muscle Cars, he really does not get it. European cars like this are called Sports Cars... that says the mental mindset difference right there. Americans typically put power first and handling second unlike European cars. It is his European snobbish attitude that irritated me throughout this video. He didn't seem to come here to evaluate these cars so much as to compare them to Euro-trash sports cars. @Charles~ Your post is kind of prick-ish. Just because Mark's opinion does not agree with your does not make it any less valid. I'd rather be a redneck than an over-opinionated/self-important important/snobbish/douche-bag like you appear to be.
Mark Dellacqua (Mon, 09 Jul 2012 11:03:14 -0700): My assumption is based on reality, Motor Trend [ not a big Ford fan ] ran an 11.6@125mph 1/4 mile run while the ZL1 has yet to break in to the 11's. Top speed in the hot desert at 2600ft was a 196mph to the ZL1's 184mph. The also ran the 2 cars on the 2.2 mile road coarse which is the ZL1's forte and guess who ran the quicker time, that's right, the GT 500. If you need more factual data try YouTube. I knew the foriegner comment would draw out the driving glove crowd, Beavis and Butthead took the bait. I'm sure you 2 think Top Gear [ British version ] is a great show and you probably watch the reruns. I'm really sorry if my comments upset you but I don't need the British auto media's blessing to tell me what a great car Ford has built and that it outshines the BMW which isn't even in the same class. The Camaro is the more mature car? No, the Camaro is the slower, heavier car. You have been driving Mustangs 15 years straight, V6's don't count. I don't think either of you are true Ford fans or true Mustang fans. If the Camaro is the more "mature car" and it handles better than the GT 500, then why are buying one? 2 bullshitters who know nothing about Ford muscle cars. I knew I could lure them out.
Ian Grant (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:26:58 -0700): the only issue I had with his review is that he kept complaining about the seat, yet he was sitting so freaking close to the steering wheel lol I believe there may be slightly more room in the camaro, but when I test drove both the mustang seemed much more open where as the camaro felt like a cardboard box with holes in it. I own a '11 stang and they definitely don't like to go slow, it feels uncomfortable, but who buys them to go slow? great unbiased review!
Earl Grylls (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:14:20 -0700): Mark Dellacqua - You know what Mark... I had posted some really nasty stuff about you and what a stupid redneck you were. You don't know anything about me and I don't need bullshit from a stupid, ignorant, old man like you. You go ahead and bury your head in the sand and pretend that the ZL1 is slower in the corners despite what the facts are about a live axle. I never insulted the GT500. It's a frikkin awesome car and I would bury you in a shallow grave to have one without a second thought. But it's still slower in the corners. fact. And you can't blame the brits for that dumbass.
Daniel Bente (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:30:28 -0700): Apparently Mark touched a nerve.
Mark Dellacqua (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:35:46 -0700): Earl, [ yes earl, I'm not making this up ] if you read his posts is my best arguement, and obviously my analysis [ 2nd post ] must have been very close to the truth. Dumb and Dumber Part Duex, enjoy the show folks.
Jeffrey Jones (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:41:29 -0700): From a "Straight line, left-turning, narrow minded redneck" let me just say, "screw you", smart guy.
John Groves (Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:03:49 -0700): I think it is good that we have outsiders testing our vehicles. its kind like having someone out of the box looking and giving you an opinion from a neutral view. I went from owning the 350z you in my pick to owning a 2012 cali special and frankly I will never buy a different car. the stang is a beast and a pleasure to drive.
Man Tong Kou (Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:03:04 -0700): I think he didn't know how to adjust the seats. I own a '12 Mustang and I've always been driving it in a pretty laid back position.
Ian Grant (Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:04:31 -0700): Agreed. Plenty of room for the driver, but not so much for the back seat lol


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