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Old 08-31-2007, 06:40 PM   #201
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All that keeps running through my head is, if this makes the car respond faster, then why wouldn't Ford do it? It would cost nothing.
Go to a radioshack and buy a 100ohm resistor. They will ask you what tolerance you want: 5,10 or 20%. thats right, you can buy a 100 ohm resistor that could actually be somewhere in the range of 80ohms to 120 ohms. Electric parts are not manufactured the same and you really cant judge an electrical part by the same standards as a mechanical part.

Ford doesnt ACTUALLY make this part. they buy it from someone else and install it themselves. I am sure that they COULD have bought a part that would have been more accurate and thus avoid the dead space in the throttle. But they chose to go with this part. Why? Because when you buy a million at a time a small difference like $0.25 makes a bigass difference.
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:43 PM   #202
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right!!!!!, example you are on a light, there is no body next to you, suddenly the light turns, and at the
same time a civic fly by. You Punch it! take off like crazy and That 0.1 of a second that you saved
make you eat the civic 0.1 sec quicker (i'm thinking on my car, AUTO)
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:47 PM   #203
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If at idle rpm the wire is sitting atop the "hump" at the end of the sweep, then moving the wire so it no longer rests on the hump has to increase the idle rpm. And if the idle rpm is higher, its just like staging at the line and power braking as you wait for the green. The throttle is already in theory moved".

All that keeps running through my head is, if this makes the car respond faster, then why wouldn't Ford do it? It would cost nothing.

Its like when some after market company makes a gizmo that improves gas mileage by 25%. The part costs $29 and it raises your mileage. If it was true why wouldn't the factory install the same component (at a lot less then $29 with bulk purchasing) and be able to claim that "our 300 hp car also gets 27 miles to the gallon! They'd clean up. The answer? Cause the claims are bogus.

I hope that you are really on to something. But I'll wait til others have sacrificed their lives in the name of technology before I start f-ing with my pedal assembly.
I definitely understand your skepticism, and I'm a little skeptical too about modifying an integral component of my car for a minimal (imo) benefit. However, without pioneers, there would be little or no advancements in technology, and as with anything, there is a risk/benefit association. Some may not think the benefit is worth the risk, and others will.So to criticize someone for their pioneering efforts, especially when ittheir efforts may work to our benefit, I think iscounter productive. Questioning it is one thing, but to blatently criticize their efforts is another. I'm extremely grateful that people are willing to try this mod and offer their results in this forum. Maybe I'll try this too if I get around to it this weekend.
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:49 PM   #204
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Right, because throttle dead space affects horsepower and quarter mile time...

Watch my video.
Do you sit at the tree with your foot off of the throttle? Do you launch from idle? I'm calling BS.

Exactly!

Please go to the local strip and show us the reaction time results "without" power braking the throttle when staged. If this really works, the reaction time, which is the elapsed time taken from the tree light turning green and the front tire breaking the stage beam. The non adjusted throttle pedal should have a greater reaction time then the manipulated one. The qtr mile time won't matter because that starts from the time the reaction time ends. I'm confident the magazine you write for has cart blanche at the local strip. So getting time to test won't be an issue, and what a story this will be in the next publication. I'm smelling Pulitzer!
thats what i said. it works when you are not power braking i think this work a lot better when you have an automatic. it's like you are in traffic and you cut someone quick. you only need to touch the pedal, instead of puching it hard. less effort = same reaction. to me its worth it
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:51 PM   #205
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:57 PM   #206
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I definitely understand your skepticism, and I'm a little skeptical too about modifying an integral component of my car for a minimal (imo) benefit. However, without pioneers, there would be little or no advancements in technology, and as with anything, there is a risk/benefit association. Some may not think the benefit is worth the risk, and others will.So to criticize someone for their pioneering efforts, especially when ittheir efforts may work to our benefit, I think iscounter productive. Questioning it is one thing, but to blatently criticize their efforts is another. I'm extremely grateful that people are willing to try this mod and offer their results in this forum. Maybe I'll try this too if I get around to it this weekend.
you are bone stock ! wait until you start moding your car. I tough that CAi + tune was BS when i was
bone stock.
Huh? If you were referring to me, re-read my post. I never said this was bs; conversely, I stated I think it's great that people are trying this out, and it may work to our benefit.
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:01 PM   #207
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right!!!!!, example you are on a light, there is no body next to you, suddenly the light turns, and at the
same time a civic fly by. You Punch it! take off like crazy and That 0.1 of a second that you saved
make you eat the civic 0.1 sec quicker (i'm thinking on my car, AUTO)
.1second at what speed/distance? And what reaction time? If you sit at a light and someone does a fly-by on youthe reaction time is going to be greater than.1 second.
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:16 PM   #208
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Tube,

I went back and re-looked at the pictures of your brushes. I looks like the tip of the brush was designed to contact the resistive track at 90 degrees. Is the very tip of the brush cut square or is it rounded to provide some bearing surface as it wipes the resistive track? If the tip is not rounded is there a danger that the sharp edge of the bush may cut into the track now that the bush contact is at an angle?
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:22 PM   #209
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...You Punch it!...
And you wreck your car because you have no idea of what you are doing.
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:26 PM   #210
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Back from Sears with a better tool. 2nd attempt coming up...
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