The unofficial resource center for Mustang owners and enthusiasts
Ford Mustang Forums - Ford Mustang Classifieds - MustangForums.com Photo Galleries - MustangForums.com Chat Room - Create an Account - Mustang News


Go Back   MustangForums.com > Ford Mustang Tech > 2005 - 2011 Mustangs
Welcome to Mustang Forums!
Welcome to Mustang Forums.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-07-2009, 03:13 PM   #1
Doc Holiday
2nd Gear Member
 
Doc Holiday's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 156
Default Oil Catch Can (Datalogged)

Here are 2 snapshots from datalogs I took back on June 20, 2009 and then today October 7, 2009.

I installed a DIY oil catch can about 1 month ago. I cleaned the intake (oil pooling near the back of it), throttle body, etc.

Before the install, my datalogs would always show timing spikes of 2-3 degrees during a WOT 3rd gear pull. After the install, no more spikes.

I believe the small pool of oil in the intake was being sucked up during WOT pulls and causing the timing spikes.

Burning oil can reduce octane ratings, cause knock, and blacken exhaust pipes (not to mention gumming up valves and pistons.)

Both datalogs were run on the same stretch of highway in 3rd gear from about 3400 RPM to 6000.

As you can see, there is no more timing spikes and the cool thing is, I used the timestamp of the datalogging software to compare how long it took to pull from 54 to 94 MPH using the exact starting and stopping RPM's to compare. In 3rd gear (from 3400 to 5960 RPM's) I have gained .5 seconds. I don't know how much of that can be contributed to the lack of oil being burned, but the conditions for the 2 datalogs were extremely similar and run on the same exact stretch of highway.
This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Mustang Forums!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 06-20-09.jpg (24.7 KB, 59 views)
File Type: jpg 10-07-09.jpg (24.6 KB, 40 views)
__________________


06 GT 5-spd, Shkr 500, JLTII 93, BMR LCA's, CMDP's, SLP LM's, Roush hd scp, rear 1/4's, Cervini B2 chin, 35% 3M tint, 17x9 BB 255/50/17 Nitto 555 front, 17x10.5 BB 315/35/17 Nitto 555 rear.
Doc Holiday is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 04:25 PM   #2
alloutt
4th Gear Member
2005 Ford Mustang
 
alloutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Vehicle: 05 GT
Location: Mesa
Posts: 1,845
Send a message via Skype™ to alloutt
Default

nice work son
__________________
alloutt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 07:37 PM   #3
Rubrignitz
5th Gear Member
2007 Ford Mustang
 
Rubrignitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Vehicle: 2007 Mustang GT Coupe
Location: TX
Posts: 4,166
Default

Wow... this is VERY interesting. I scanned your sig to see if you're boosted but your not and I've seen these spikes on many, many dyno graphs and dlogs. Interesting to see the effects on a non-sc car.
__________________
2007 Alloy GT Coupe - Performance: MGW shifter/C&L Racer CAI/JBA LT's/JBA catted H/Pypes M-80 race mufflers/Steeda HD engine mounts/LFP 17# driveshaft/FRPP 4.10s/Truetrac/Steeda Ultralite 18x9.5's with 275/40 and 285/40 Nitto NT555/Autometer DPSS shift light and gauges. Suspension: Steeda Comp Springs/GT500 Front CA's with Steeda X5 balljoints/Steeda bumpsteer kit/Tokico D-Specs/BMR adj upper & lower LCAs+relocation brackets/Hotchkis 3/4way adj swaybars/UMI Performance panhard.
Rubrignitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 08:52 PM   #4
8178A
3rd Gear Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location:
Posts: 627
Default

How many miles do you have and how hard have you thrashed it. Sounds like you pushing a lot of oil to have it collecting in the intake!
__________________
This is my 2009 Mustang GT Premium, there are many like it, but this one is mine!

Brilliant Silver/Black, 5 speed manual, 3:55 gears, 18" wheels, Microsoft Sync and 93 octane tune configuration from Brenspeed. All original chalk car. Past Mustang owned, Black 07 GT Premiun, 5 speed manual.

Patiently waiting for Ford to design my next Mustang! Let’s get with it Ford!


8178A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 09:06 PM   #5
Doc Holiday
2nd Gear Member
 
Doc Holiday's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 156
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8178A View Post
How many miles do you have and how hard have you thrashed it. Sounds like you pushing a lot of oil to have it collecting in the intake!
Mine's a 2006 with about 42,000 miles. I do drive "spirited" whenever possible, and run WOT pulls to datalog about once a month.


If you get around to modding your car some more and get some CMDP's, you'll have a chance to see what collects in your intake. It's not a whole lot of oil after 40K, but when I installed my delete plates, it was enough for me to decide to do something about it.

I'd say I collect about an ounce of oil every 500 to 600 miles in the catch can. Trust me, you engine will lose about the same, the only difference is whether you want to burn the oil or dump it out.

If you do a search for delete plates, you'll find some pictures of what the oil is doing to the inside of your engine, including valves, pistons, etc.
__________________


06 GT 5-spd, Shkr 500, JLTII 93, BMR LCA's, CMDP's, SLP LM's, Roush hd scp, rear 1/4's, Cervini B2 chin, 35% 3M tint, 17x9 BB 255/50/17 Nitto 555 front, 17x10.5 BB 315/35/17 Nitto 555 rear.
Doc Holiday is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 09:13 PM   #6
Rubrignitz
5th Gear Member
2007 Ford Mustang
 
Rubrignitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Vehicle: 2007 Mustang GT Coupe
Location: TX
Posts: 4,166
Default

What are you datalogging with?
__________________
2007 Alloy GT Coupe - Performance: MGW shifter/C&L Racer CAI/JBA LT's/JBA catted H/Pypes M-80 race mufflers/Steeda HD engine mounts/LFP 17# driveshaft/FRPP 4.10s/Truetrac/Steeda Ultralite 18x9.5's with 275/40 and 285/40 Nitto NT555/Autometer DPSS shift light and gauges. Suspension: Steeda Comp Springs/GT500 Front CA's with Steeda X5 balljoints/Steeda bumpsteer kit/Tokico D-Specs/BMR adj upper & lower LCAs+relocation brackets/Hotchkis 3/4way adj swaybars/UMI Performance panhard.
Rubrignitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 09:39 PM   #7
Doogie65
4th Gear Member
2007 Ford Mustang
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Vehicle: 07 GT Alloy vert
Location: WI
Posts: 1,090
Default

For those who are interested, this is a great thread that highlights why we need these on our cars along with many great options for putting one together.

http://mustangforums.com/forum/4-6l-...modaddict.html

I am about to pull trigger on a Stef's set-up before I get too many miles on the supercharger and this only helps with my justification of the expense
__________________
Mods: Edelbrock Supercharger 422RWHP/394RWTQ, CDC convertible bar & Classic Chin, Roush rear springs, GTAs, Steeda Billet LCAs & adj. panhard, CHE anti-squat, Pro5.0 shifter with Hurst stick/knob, RotorPro Rotors, Agent 47 mirrors, Dual Aeroforce gauges, CS69 wheels

Foose hood FINALLY went in for paint on 11/24!!


Last edited by Doogie65; 10-07-2009 at 09:47 PM.
Doogie65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 10:36 PM   #8
moosestang
6th Gear Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 8,294
Default

I only get about 1-2 oz. every 3,000 miles, some maybe draining back though with the way my catch can sits slightly higher than the pcv valve.
__________________
Boost or Buell, decisions, decisions.

whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, hurst, 4.10's, J&M extreme joint lca's, adj. UCA, relo bracets, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).

Downshifting Crew Member
moosestang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 11:02 PM   #9
CorruptedDemon60
2nd Gear Member
 
CorruptedDemon60's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Vehicle: 07 GT 5spd Black on Red
Location: Casselberry, FL
Posts: 239
Send a message via AIM to CorruptedDemon60
Default

I'm gonna do this to my car next time I'm home. I just installed my delete plates with 10k miles on my motor and there was a good amount of oil burned on the butterflys.
__________________
07 GT 5spd Black on Red
Mods: Hurst Shifter W/ Black Ball, HIDs, CMDPs, JLT2, XCAL2 w/Tillman 93 Allout, Mac Mufflers, O/R H, GT500 Wing.
CorruptedDemon60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2009, 12:31 AM   #10
foolio2k4
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location:
Posts: 437
Default

very very cool to see hard data. I could tell my car was smoother was a catch can installed. Very good to see its faster w/ the can. Do doubt our car sucks in a ton of oil through the intake manifold.
__________________
2007 White Mustang GT
HID kit 6k, Steeda UDP, K&N FIPK Cold Air Intake, SCT x3 Canned Tunes, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, Magnaflow Catted X-Pipe, Prothane Motor Mount, Steeda Strut Tower Brace, Stillen Adj. Front and Rear Sway Bars, Steeda HD Panhard Brace, Steeda Billet LCA, Clear/smoked front and rear sidemarkers, LED turn lights, SHR Tru-Billet FD, JBA Shorty TC, APR Perf GTC-200 CF Wing, Steeda CMDP, APR Dry Carbon Mirrors, Mishimoto Alum. Radiator, TEIN FLEX Coilovers
foolio2k4 is offline   Reply With Quote



Reply



Tags
05, 2005, 50, catch, diy, gt, gt500, install, installation, mustang, mustangoil, oil, s197, stef, turbo

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Advertising

Featured Sponsors
New Sponsors
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:44 PM.

© Internet Brands, Inc.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company