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The treadwear rating doesn't tell us how soft or hard the rubber compound is. Everything the consumer is provided with is just a general guide. However, generally Z rated tires that are good for over 150 mph don't have hard rubber compounds or at those high speeds the car would handle like a lame camel and be very dangerous.
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I will take a better look at the tires but here is a mini-skinny
1. 18K miles on car
2. 6K rotation (so the original rears have been rears for 12K miles and fronts for 6k miles)
3. Using a Penny (because everyone has one and you can relate)
Ok the fronts (12K miles as fronts and 6K as rears)
The tread goes to Abe's forhead - covers his hair
Ok the rears (12K miles as rears and 6K as fronts)
The tread is to Abe's hair - can see all of his hair
Even across the entire tread pattern in each groove.
Roger, I type slow when I get interrupted by things like dinner . . .
I'm beginning to think that we're saying the same thing but with different experiences as basis.
I'm an individual consumer who does not look outside the higher performance categories when shopping for tires. It's been at least 20 years since I bought a tire with a speed rating as low as 'H', and I'd have to go at least another 10 years back before that to find where I'd bought anything rated any lower than that or outside of those categories (I recall buying a set of S-rated Vredesteins back around 1977, and I think the '79 Malibu came OE with unrated tires having a GM TPC(?) spec of some sort).
My point being that my shopping is confined to a relatively small segment of the overall replacement tire market, where many (most?) other customers place greater emphasis on things like cost and tread life. A 400 TW tire is relatively hard and long-lived from my perspective, but would probably be viewed as a fairly serious short-life performance tire by the guy looking to replace the tires on his Prius or Insight. Too middle-ground for me, too hardcore performance for Mr. Prius, and you get to supply tires to both of us.
Thanks for the input everyone. And thanks for chiming in RogerDodger1. I am not trying to give you a hard time just debating.
I think I am going to get some Nittos NT555
Acccckkkk! Made in Japan. With 15 million unemployed American brothers and sisters, (with hundreds of thousands more being added per month), it would help to buy American, or at least tires that are made in America.
I will take a better look at the tires but here is a mini-skinny 1. 18K miles on car
2. 6K rotation (so the original rears have been rears for 12K miles and fronts for 6k miles)
3. Using a Penny (because everyone has one and you can relate)
Ok the fronts (12K miles as fronts and 6K as rears)
The tread goes to Abe's forhead - covers his hair
Ok the rears (12K miles as rears and 6K as fronts)
The tread is to Abe's hair - can see all of his hair
Even across the entire tread pattern in each groove.
The tires are the BF g-force T/A KDWS
97W
Go to NAPA or Carquest, or some other professional grade of auto parts store and you can pick up an honest to gosh tread depth gauge for $3-4. Will pay for itself many times over in increased tread life, as you will be able to closely monitor tire wear and get alignments, adjust tire air pressures, etc., before the tires get killed with uneven wear.
Go to NAPA or Carquest, or some other professional grade of auto parts store and you can pick up an honest to gosh tread depth gauge for $3-4. Will pay for itself many times over in increased tread life, as you will be able to closely monitor tire wear and get alignments, adjust tire air pressures, etc., before the tires get killed with uneven wear.
I have a Tread life gauge. I used the Penny because everyone can relate to that.
Acccckkkk! Made in Japan. With 15 million unemployed American brothers and sisters, (with hundreds of thousands more being added per month), it would help to buy American, or at least tires that are made in America.
Ok I'll bite...
Give me a list of
235/50-18 tires that are made in the USA, High/Ultra/Max Performance and do not cost a fortune and I will look into them. No I will not buy the g-force tires again unless they are discounted heavy cause no way are the worth the asking $200 each!
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With 15 million unemployed American brothers and sisters, (with hundreds of thousands more being added per month), it would help to buy American, or at least tires that are made in America.
