Shorty headers
01-22-2007, 05:47 PM
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RE: Shorty headers
Ive been researching headers........have been told that both, shorties and LTs will increase sound but Im not sure which one will be louder......I would think that LTs would because of the distance the air travels.
01-22-2007, 05:48 PM
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RE: Shorty headers
Yes they increase sound. I have JBA shorties and it does change the sound. Get ready for everyone to tell you how not to waste your money. Shorties don't increase power like LT's, but LT's aren't smog legal so it creates a dilema for some (like me). I like my shorties and the sound they create. I paired them with the FRPP stingers. If I wasn't technicaly challenged and had the equipment, I would post a sound clip. If the state you live in doesn't have a visual smog test then you willpass smog just fine.In California, it goes by the county (in CA) whether or not they do a visual.
01-22-2007, 07:26 PM
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RE: Shorty headers
Headers (long or short) do not increase sound in and out of themselves. They do sound different, but they are not louder.
Now then, longtube installs are usually louder than OEM--not becasue of the headers, but becasue nobody installs longtubes with stock cats. They use either high-flow cats or no cats (aka "off road" setup). THAT makes a longtube install louder. But headers themsevles have a minimal impact on volume.
+1 on Riven's comment about LTs vs. shorties.
Emissions is a minor concern. It is easy enough to avoid trouble!
Now then, longtube installs are usually louder than OEM--not becasue of the headers, but becasue nobody installs longtubes with stock cats. They use either high-flow cats or no cats (aka "off road" setup). THAT makes a longtube install louder. But headers themsevles have a minimal impact on volume.
+1 on Riven's comment about LTs vs. shorties.
Emissions is a minor concern. It is easy enough to avoid trouble!
01-22-2007, 07:51 PM
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RE: Shorty headers
ORIGINAL: CrazyAl
Headers (long or short) do not increase sound in and out of themselves. They do sound different, but they are not louder.
Now then, longtube installs are usually louder than OEM--not becasue of the headers, but becasue nobody installs longtubes with stock cats. They use either high-flow cats or no cats (aka "off road" setup). THAT makes a longtube install louder. But headers themsevles have a minimal impact on volume.
Headers (long or short) do not increase sound in and out of themselves. They do sound different, but they are not louder.
Now then, longtube installs are usually louder than OEM--not becasue of the headers, but becasue nobody installs longtubes with stock cats. They use either high-flow cats or no cats (aka "off road" setup). THAT makes a longtube install louder. But headers themsevles have a minimal impact on volume.
01-22-2007, 07:53 PM
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RE: Shorty headers
They have a peak HP gain of about 5HP, and some say they provide a torque boost around 3000 RPM. One mag article puts them at +17 ft-lb at 3000 RPM, whereas another showed only +5 ft-lb there.
In my opinion they are worth a small HP/TQ gain, but I don't think it is worth the cost or the effort to install. IMHO, they sell simply becasue people want to buy mods for their car and belive in them regardless of the real-world results....like throttle body spacers and "Tornado" intakes. Shorties may be good on other cars, but on this car, the OEM manifolds are excellent. The way to get real power from the exhaust is by scavenging, and that cannot be done with shorties.
My advice: if you want to do the exhaust, get longtubes. If that is not possible for whatever reason (legal issues, finances, etc..) then just stick with stock. The amount of time and $$ inolved with shorties is not worthwhile given the small gains.
In my opinion they are worth a small HP/TQ gain, but I don't think it is worth the cost or the effort to install. IMHO, they sell simply becasue people want to buy mods for their car and belive in them regardless of the real-world results....like throttle body spacers and "Tornado" intakes. Shorties may be good on other cars, but on this car, the OEM manifolds are excellent. The way to get real power from the exhaust is by scavenging, and that cannot be done with shorties.
My advice: if you want to do the exhaust, get longtubes. If that is not possible for whatever reason (legal issues, finances, etc..) then just stick with stock. The amount of time and $$ inolved with shorties is not worthwhile given the small gains.