How stop roll in front suspension while cornering?
06-25-2007, 07:21 PM
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How stop roll in front suspension while cornering?
Maybe the word is leaning, or maybe its rolling. Either way when you corner hard how can youlevel outthe front end from lifting on one side so much?
There just aren't as many mods for the front end of this car...
And on a side note since I never got a response from anyone... I bought front control arm bushings but was wondering if anyone has replaced theirs ever? easy to do? Have to take the whole control arm out? 175lbs/ft? If anyone knows any secrets then anything will help.
Well, thanks ya'll
There just aren't as many mods for the front end of this car...
And on a side note since I never got a response from anyone... I bought front control arm bushings but was wondering if anyone has replaced theirs ever? easy to do? Have to take the whole control arm out? 175lbs/ft? If anyone knows any secrets then anything will help.
Well, thanks ya'll
06-25-2007, 07:42 PM
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RE: How stop roll in front suspension while cornering?
ORIGINAL: TrIpOd
i dont believe lowering springs help with body roll. they help with cornering.
ORIGINAL: Boozshey
Lowered Springs
Lowered Springs
strut tower braces and k-member braces are not for reducing body roll either.
swaybars, springs, dampers will all help with body roll. swaybars most noticeably at the sacrifice of grip
06-25-2007, 07:51 PM
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RE: How stop roll in front suspension while cornering?
A multiple component approach is probably what you want to do - you want to improve the roll center characteristics of both the front and back of the car. Doing just the front will only make the issues with the rear more pronounced.
Chassis stiffening and improved compression/rebound dynamics from all four corners will be thebest way to deal with what it sounds like you are interested in.
The car has about a half dozen areas that need to be addressed...you are identifying your #1 (front roll center) area...onceyou fix that, you willmake #2 (rear roll center) your #1 problem and possibly make it more pronounced.
I've been fairly patient and listened to a lot of people who know way more than I do...experimented a bit andbasically built my car up over a year in response to specific problems I was trying to solve - its one recipe...your results may vary
I approached it initially with just good tires...you'd be amazed at how much more compliant this car is with just better tires.
Next cam adjustable dampeners for all four corners in combination with lowering the car.
At that point I actually found the rear of the car to be the least compliant and upgraded the rear end suspension (sway, end links etc.).
That was not enough so I've added more chassis stiffening by putting in some interior bracing in the form of a custom 4pt bar. Another option I looked at (and still am) is going with a Watts link.
Now the car is a beast in the corners and I am quite happy, but not satisfied. Now the front is the least compliant so I will eventually be bringing the bars forward to the strut tower...of course at that point she's not going to be a street car any more...I've got some other changes in the works too.
FYI, I've tried strut tower braces at various points of the development and found no real improvement.
Chassis stiffening and improved compression/rebound dynamics from all four corners will be thebest way to deal with what it sounds like you are interested in.
The car has about a half dozen areas that need to be addressed...you are identifying your #1 (front roll center) area...onceyou fix that, you willmake #2 (rear roll center) your #1 problem and possibly make it more pronounced.
I've been fairly patient and listened to a lot of people who know way more than I do...experimented a bit andbasically built my car up over a year in response to specific problems I was trying to solve - its one recipe...your results may vary
I approached it initially with just good tires...you'd be amazed at how much more compliant this car is with just better tires.
Next cam adjustable dampeners for all four corners in combination with lowering the car.
At that point I actually found the rear of the car to be the least compliant and upgraded the rear end suspension (sway, end links etc.).
That was not enough so I've added more chassis stiffening by putting in some interior bracing in the form of a custom 4pt bar. Another option I looked at (and still am) is going with a Watts link.
Now the car is a beast in the corners and I am quite happy, but not satisfied. Now the front is the least compliant so I will eventually be bringing the bars forward to the strut tower...of course at that point she's not going to be a street car any more...I've got some other changes in the works too.
FYI, I've tried strut tower braces at various points of the development and found no real improvement.
