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stupid metal rattling noise at 3k rpm! EDIT: SOLUTION FOUND 9/7/07

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Old 09-17-2007, 05:03 PM   #41
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Default RE: Solution found!!!!

yes this can be thought of pinging, but since it only happens @ 3k you know its not....that should only happen @ close to WOT
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:26 PM   #42
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MTAS - are those the pictures of the spacer plate that's been rattling?
Yeah - the clutch shield. My car didn't come with the 2 bolts, and they alone solved the rattle at start up, but not the 3000-3200RPM rattle under load (not in neutral, revving). The washer combo got rid of all of it!
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:36 PM   #43
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This may explain the pinging issues I thought I was having with my tunes. Can anyone post a picture or drawing that's not quite so zoomed in as the ones above? Also, MTAS, was it difficult to get to those bolts with a socket? What did you use?
Not difficult at all - use a 3/8" drive ratchet and a standard depth 17mm socket. Sorry I don't have any pics that aren't so zoomed.

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Old 09-17-2007, 08:21 PM   #44
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My car didn't come with the 2 bolts...
What size bolts did you put in?
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Default RE: stupid metal rattling noise at 3k rpm! EDIT: SOLUTION FOUND 9/7/07

i have heard that u can add some washers i believe. if not i would take it to a local shop to get it checked
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:24 PM   #46
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yup my muffs rattle a bit when in first as im accelerating...
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My car didn't come with the 2 bolts...
What size bolts did you put in?
10mm x 1.5mm thread, 3/4" long - got 'em at Lowes
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My car didn't come with the 2 bolts...
What size bolts did you put in?
10mm x 1.5mm thread, 3/4" long - got 'em at Lowes
Thanks for that and for posting the pics. I'll be under the car this weekend checking for this.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:16 AM   #49
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Any specific torque specs for those bolts? I've got the same problem and looks like I'll have to try that spacer trick. Glad someone's found a decent fix along the way, this issue's been driving me crazy!
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yes this can be thought of pinging, but since it only happens @ 3k you know its not....that should only happen @ close to WOT
i get the rattle when ever im at a light after ive drivin for a while and it goes away when i put it in neutral (auto) v8 - and also when im going in reverse!

is this the same issue everyone else has? or mufflers -

also started after i had my slp axle backs installed last year
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i too had a metallic chatter noise at part to full throttle and it went away when i filled up with 89 instead of 87... so this spacer isn't the cause of everyone's.
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yes this can be thought of pinging, but since it only happens @ 3k you know its not....that should only happen @ close to WOT
i get the rattle when ever im at a light after ive drivin for a while and it goes away when i put it in neutral (auto) v8 - and also when im going in reverse!

is this the same issue everyone else has? or mufflers -

also started after i had my slp axle backs installed last year
sounds like it's your axleback... you should be able to tell if it's in the rear or up front near the motor though.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:48 PM   #53
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This is pinging!

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i too had a metallic chatter noise at part to full throttle and it went away when i filled up with 89 instead of 87... so this spacer isn't the cause of everyone's.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:55 PM   #54
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i too had a metallic chatter noise at part to full throttle and it went away when i filled up with 89 instead of 87... so this spacer isn't the cause of everyone's.
Nope - that's a completely, totally different issue you're having there. The 2 bolts w/washers fix a metal-to-metal buzzing sound at 3000-3200RPM. That's detonation you have there. They're actually two distinct, different sounds.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:05 AM   #55
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Here's ANOTHER solution you can DIY:

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpo...p;postcount=10
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i get the rattle when ever im at a light after ive drivin for a while and it goes away when i put it in neutral (auto) v8 - and also when im going in reverse!

is this the same issue everyone else has? or mufflers -

also started after i had my slp axle backs installed last year
sounds like it's the same issue addressed here...but may well be mufflers since it started after you had your slp axle backs installed. then again, it still could be this issue, but you didn't notice it before because these axle backs resonate at different rpms and frequencies than stock.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:01 AM   #57
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dumb question - since i've never experienced it, does pinging sound similar to this metal rattle i WAS having (now fixed, yay!)? and is pinging = knocking?

just curious.
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dumb question - since i've never experienced it, does pinging sound similar to this metal rattle i WAS having (now fixed, yay!)? and is pinging = knocking?

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Old 09-26-2007, 10:09 AM   #59
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Its the metal sheet behind the clutch. I could see where it was rubbing so i just bent the metal and now no rattle

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This fixed it for me! The dealer replaced the metal plate, but I had to email them this thread and have them look at the pictures to know what I was talking about. They had been hearing thenoise and knew it wasn't pinging (knocking). They had already replaced both cats, most of the hangers on the exhaust, and been though the underside of the car several times. The real pain with this is that the noise goes away once the car warms up, within about 2 minutes (pinging usually will always be there under load) then you won't hear it again intil after the car cools down for 6-8 hours.Once they had the tranny out and took off the old plate they could see where it had been rubing.
It is covered by the warrentee so don't wait. No more nosie!!!!! Thanks for the pointers imyy4uand MTAS!!! Now my car doesn't sound like a big POS american car in the morning.
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