TO BUY OR NTO TO BUY STALL 3000
09-27-2007, 06:01 PM
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TO BUY OR NTO TO BUY STALL 3000
IM thinking about getting a 3000 stall converter.....but heres my question....how will my daily driving be on that.....does it only take in effect when launching and if i drive it regularly it drives perfectly fine or is it rough..help me out my mustang family!!!
09-27-2007, 07:27 PM
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RE: TO BUY OR NTO TO BUY STALL 3000
I don't know about a 3000 RPM converter on the street. My Road Runner has a 3800 stall, and while it's GREAT at the strip, not so much on the street. May be better with a 3000 stall, but man, I just don't think it would be good converter. Anyone chime in on this?
09-27-2007, 08:10 PM
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RE: TO BUY OR NTO TO BUY STALL 3000
With modern cars there is no downside to running a high stall converter. Modern torque conveters have a clutch inside that locks it solid at cruising speeds. The old school stuff like in the Road Runner mentioned above would have presented a problem because it was made before lock up converters were invented. They were always slipping. You had to be careful with that old technology because going with a stall speed too high would result in lots and lots of slippage and heat at steady crusing speeds.
Just about every car with an automatic transmission built since the mid 1980's has a lock up converter so with your S197 by all means go for it. One thing I'd suggest though is going with a 3500 stall instead of 3000. Your stock converter stalls at 2550 so to go to a 3000 you're only gaining 450 rpm stall.
It's the same amount of work an very likely not much more money to go with a 3500 stall and you will get a really great launch with that.
On a fianl note: Automatic transmission technology has come further in the last 10 years that it did in the previous 40! Alot of the old school rules just don't apply any more.
Just about every car with an automatic transmission built since the mid 1980's has a lock up converter so with your S197 by all means go for it. One thing I'd suggest though is going with a 3500 stall instead of 3000. Your stock converter stalls at 2550 so to go to a 3000 you're only gaining 450 rpm stall.
It's the same amount of work an very likely not much more money to go with a 3500 stall and you will get a really great launch with that.
On a fianl note: Automatic transmission technology has come further in the last 10 years that it did in the previous 40! Alot of the old school rules just don't apply any more.
09-27-2007, 08:23 PM
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RE: TO BUY OR NTO TO BUY STALL 3000
Awesome, 3 different posts, 3 different speeds! This is the awesome tech information I look forward to! [/sarcasm]
Sorry guys, I had to.
Anyone have a converter and gears? What would a converter, gears and SC combo look like?
Sorry guys, I had to.
Anyone have a converter and gears? What would a converter, gears and SC combo look like?
09-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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RE: TO BUY OR NTO TO BUY STALL 3000
I have a 4000 stall and it drives fine. they still have lock up capabilities so highway driving doesn't suffer and still retain same highway mileage. in town driving there will of course be additional slipping. keep in mind that if you put a 3000 stall in, chances are it may only flash to 2400 or so unless you are FI or have nitrous. even though I have a 4000 stall, it will only flash to about 3200 unless I run the nitrous.
09-27-2007, 10:43 PM
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RE: TO BUY OR NTO TO BUY STALL 3000
Typo, stock is 2450. My mistake. That's from Ford so it should be accurate. Still 3000 rpm stall isn't a huge change from stock. If you're going to go to the trouble and expense I would get at least 3500.
