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Old 02-01-2008, 10:13 AM   #61
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Old 02-02-2008, 03:45 AM   #62
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I'm not even going to bother trying to read the rest of these posts!
Just to add my 2 bits-
You can take off in 2nd in slow traffic and not notice much of a difference. The GT's got plenty of torque.
Don't downshift into 1st unless you're trying to show off to bystanders and you want to jerk your headback and forth. There's a long delay before it actually goes into gear so it's not really needed.
I will shift my auto to make more noise, like when cruising with the manual GT's! In D my GT just gets into 5th too quickly and quietly.
Manually shifting isn't recommended for straight line performance, but if you are going through turns, especially while going downhill, having it in the proper gear is better than braking while turning.

There are kits to give your GT paddleshifters but the price is pretty high.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:54 AM   #63
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Thats a waste. Just get your auto tranny tuned and you will NEVER be able to manually shift it better than it can on its on. PERIOD.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:58 AM   #64
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I'm 99% sure that the transmission in "2" on the v6 uses both the first and the second gear. The shift points are aggressive enough on the auto, there is little need to shift manually, it's redundant, if you have overdrive off that is.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:00 AM   #65
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Thats a waste. Just get your auto tranny tuned and you will NEVER be able to manually shift it better than it can on its on. PERIOD.
actually in a corner that might be a different story.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:12 AM   #66
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Thats a waste. Just get your auto tranny tuned and you will NEVER be able to manually shift it better than it can on its on. PERIOD.
actually in a corner that might be a different story.





Very true. Auto downshifts in a corner may not be to some's liking. But, manually downshifting can at times be frustrating waiting on the thing to "spool" down and drop in gear.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:28 PM   #67
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It's true, you can't manually upshiftbetter than the computer at WOT. But going downhill or
into corners the tranny will NOT downshift enough to help you in braking. This is where
manually downshifting comes in. One other thing I noticed, when the car was stock
manual downshifts did not kick in right away...there was a 2 sec or so delay. After
the tune, downshifts kick in right away.

On mountain roads, uphill or downhill I will NOT leave it in D.

Another thing....our shifter absolutely SUCKS for manual shifting. We need a good
ratchet shifter so when our adreneline is pumping and wewant to slam it into 2nd
we don't from from 1st to 3rd. Downshifting from 3rd to 1st is even worse, that'll
snap your neck forward. I wonder if the computer will let the tranny go into 1st
if you're going too fast...think I'll pass on testing that one out.
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Old 02-02-2008, 01:00 PM   #68
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Things to remember:

1. 1st is 1st gear only
2. 2nd is 2nd gear ONLY..it is not 1st/2nd
3. 3rd is 3rd gear ONLY..not 1/2/3
4. Drive IS 1/2/3/4 and 5th
5. Don't try starting off in 2 or 3rd...you will bog badly.

6. No..you don't "have" to keep your foot on the gas when shifting.
You can fake-out on-lookers by putting it in 1st...lightly accelerating
then lifting off the gas, shift into 2nd and accelerate again. We just
don't need a clutch. But don't EVER expect to "chirp" the tires doing this.

I never shift this way..onlyto show people I CAN (make it sound like a manual)

7. Pretty sure neutral drops are OUT of the question. At least I'd never try it.

8. KNOW each gearsRPM range. You don't want to downshift into 1st
doing 50..damn...that wouldhurt.

9. Manual shifting comes in handy when you need to downshift (for a better rpm
range for better acceleration) without having to go WOT to get the tranny to
downshift for you.
And this about covers it.

And italwasy amazes me how close minded some people are when it comes to Automatic transmissions. You guys do realize that many drag racers use automatics right.
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Which tune got rid of the pause?
I remember driving on a wonderful country road and seeing the turn ahead and having you downshift (auto) from 3 into 2 way early... because it took that long to engage!
Won't even go into how long it can take when I floor it to get into the fast lane on the freeway!


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It's true, you can't manually upshiftbetter than the computer at WOT. But going downhill or
into corners the tranny will NOT downshift enough to help you in braking. This is where
manually downshifting comes in. One other thing I noticed, when the car was stock
manual downshifts did not kick in right away...there was a 2 sec or so delay. After
the tune, downshifts kick in right away.

On mountain roads, uphill or downhill I will NOT leave it in D.

Another thing....our shifter absolutely SUCKS for manual shifting. We need a good
ratchet shifter so when our adreneline is pumping and wewant to slam it into 2nd
we don't from from 1st to 3rd. Downshifting from 3rd to 1st is even worse, that'll
snap your neck forward. I wonder if the computer will let the tranny go into 1st
if you're going too fast...think I'll pass on testing that one out.
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Old 02-02-2008, 02:54 PM   #70
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Which tune got rid of the pause?
I remember driving on a wonderful country road and seeing the turn ahead and having you downshift (auto) from 3 into 2 way early... because it took that long to engage!
Won't even go into how long it can take when I floor it to get into the fast lane on the freeway!


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It's true, you can't manually upshiftbetter than the computer at WOT. But going downhill or
into corners the tranny will NOT downshift enough to help you in braking. This is where
manually downshifting comes in. One other thing I noticed, when the car was stock
manual downshifts did not kick in right away...there was a 2 sec or so delay. After
the tune, downshifts kick in right away.

On mountain roads, uphill or downhill I will NOT leave it in D.

Another thing....our shifter absolutely SUCKS for manual shifting. We need a good
ratchet shifter so when our adreneline is pumping and wewant to slam it into 2nd
we don't from from 1st to 3rd. Downshifting from 3rd to 1st is even worse, that'll
snap your neck forward. I wonder if the computer will let the tranny go into 1st
if you're going too fast...think I'll pass on testing that one out.
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Thats a waste. Just get your auto tranny tuned and you will NEVER be able to manually shift it better than it can on its on. PERIOD.
actually in a corner that might be a different story.
You are correct, I was purely speaking of upshifting. The OP said nothing about autocross or anything so I doubt they need to worry about downshifting.
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Thesemotors rev so quick , it is hard to shift them any quicker than they do by themselves.
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Thats a waste. Just get your auto tranny tuned and you will NEVER be able to manually shift it better than it can on its on. PERIOD.
actually in a corner that might be a different story.
You are correct, I was purely speaking of upshifting. The OP said nothing about autocross or anything so I doubt they need to worry about downshifting.











......................but that has been the basis of his words. He keeps trying to downsfiht into 1.
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:58 PM   #74
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Does anyone have any experience with the B & M Shifter or TIC shifter for the automatics? Does anyone know if they come with an OD on/off switch?
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how much use are the gears manually after a gear install say,with 4:10s or 3:90s? i'd assume 1st is pretty much useless.
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how much use are the gears manually after a gear install say,with 4:10s or 3:90s? i'd assume 1st is pretty much useless.









I would agree. Too much shifting with those gears. Might as well start out in 2.
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Okay, So if you gonna put it in 1st take off OD? My 2 Qestions are, what happens when you goto 1st,2nd,3rd then D do you turn back on the OD? and what is the overdrive for? i thought it was used for uphill's? Also i would like to metion about a week ago i came ontoa main road froma stop sign , put it first but didnt take the over drive off went threw 1st,2nd,3rd,then D all the sudden my check engine light cameon [:-][:-][:-]now i properly shifted the gears by tac and hearing of the engine.I took it to the dealership just saying my check engine light came on while i was driving froma stop sign (i didnt say what i was doing) so they check and they saw no code's or memory of the light coming on?? he said maybe it was a glitch? i was like okay and went home since then i havent done it im alittle nervous and opinons?
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The OD is just another gear. 5th if I can count my fingers right. By locking it out, you will just stay in Drive or 4th. OD is for high speed highway driving although mine will go into OD in town if I am lollygaging around so it will save gas.
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Well while we're on this subject...
I'm going to start autocrossing in March when it starts back here.
I was wondering if I sould launch in 1st then shift into 2nd and leave it in 2nd the whole time?
Or should I just leave it in D? Mine is tuned.
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Sounds like you haven't autocrossed much. For the first few runs, I suggest just putting it in '2' and leaving it alone. You'll be busy enough following the course and cranking on the steering wheel to want to bother with anything else. Us manual tranny guys normally make one upshift and forget about it (but have to decide whether to upshift early before the first turn or hold it into the next "straight".


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