2010 Revealed
11-18-2008, 08:36 PM
#102
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the reason why, I believe their holding off from bringing out the 5.0 next year is because they dont want to make a GT faster then the Gt500 that would down right be stupid, they're trying to make a motor with middle power band something in between the 4.6 and 5.4L so hopefully it will have around 390-400 Hp around there.
11-18-2008, 08:47 PM
#104
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Orlando, Flawda
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you were right i was 170 pounds off, plus driver and gas, its over 430
some shelby comparison
The Shelby Mustang is 220 lbs. lighter than the srt 8 Challenger. It also produces 75 more hp than Dodge’s car.
First things first, let’s take a look at Dodge’s performance Challenger (MSRP $40,095). The 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 features a 6.1L SRT HEMI engine which Dodge says can produce 425 hp and 420 lb.-ft. of torque. This 6.1L engine is designed to give the SRT8 power. Truth be told, it also weighs the car down. The end result is a curb weight of 4,140 lbs for the Challenger SRT8.
some shelby comparison
The Shelby Mustang is 220 lbs. lighter than the srt 8 Challenger. It also produces 75 more hp than Dodge’s car.
Last edited by 67BullittCoupe; 11-18-2008 at 08:49 PM. Reason: more info
11-18-2008, 08:49 PM
#105
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 423
I hate how people were thinking that this was going to be an ALL NEW mustang with a billion hp and a new engine (that was clearly not going to be ready).
I was hoping for an increase in power that was more than just 15 hp, like most people...as they did have decent hp increases for almost every generation.
The challenger is 650 pounds heavier than the 'new' mustang gt, so lets assume that the challenger now has 375 hp, instead of 425(assuming that it's excessive weight and hp balance with the new mustang). This seems to be a good comparable number, IMO.
Anybody know how much the camaro ss weighs in at?
I was hoping for an increase in power that was more than just 15 hp, like most people...as they did have decent hp increases for almost every generation.
The challenger is 650 pounds heavier than the 'new' mustang gt, so lets assume that the challenger now has 375 hp, instead of 425(assuming that it's excessive weight and hp balance with the new mustang). This seems to be a good comparable number, IMO.
Anybody know how much the camaro ss weighs in at?
11-18-2008, 08:49 PM
#106
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Houston, Tx
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Mod vs. mod, Stock vs. Stock V6 CAMARO> V6 Mustang
Mod vs. mod, Stock vs. Stock V8 CAMARO> V8 Mustang
Sorry to break you heart.
Never said this im just saying when aftermarket comes out it can pose a threat
1. The camaro weight is 3800 LBS
2. The V6 will not be a failure you wait and see how it will overshadow the V6 Mustang and the insurance will not be ridiculous. I bet it will be the same as the V6 Mustang.
Using this argument i can just by a 2002 LS1 for 10K and use the remaining 16K to turbocharge the car and put it into deep 8's.
Mod vs. mod, Stock vs. Stock V8 CAMARO> V8 Mustang
Sorry to break you heart.
So you're assuming that ppl will mod up their Camaro V6's and start breaking stock S197 GT hearts, yes? Well, guess what? I have modded up my GT, and WILL be breaking Camaro SS hearts.........fair enough?
Make up your mind dudes, either defend the stock for stock, mod for mod theory......or get into the "run what ya brung" camp. You can't play both sides.
Make up your mind dudes, either defend the stock for stock, mod for mod theory......or get into the "run what ya brung" camp. You can't play both sides.why do they need a 5.0? the current car weighs 3500 lbs
the ss camaro and srt 8 challenger wiegh 4300 lbs
big difference. so let them have 100 more horsepower, they need it.
btw remember the GT is the base V8 package? how many times do they need to tell all you guys?
also the 300 HP v6 camaro is going to be a failure. if you think about it the v6 cars are meant for people who dont need performance but like the looks of the cars. the insurance on those cars will be ridiculous, and many people will buy the v6 mustang over the v6 camaro
and lastly remember that there has been a mid performance model in between the GT and the GT 500 since 2003. im sure they will step up the shelby GT or introduce a mach 1 or bullitt or boss edition in between the cobra and GT
EVERY ONE DONT GET YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH,
seriously i cant remember a new mustang anyone liked. seems Ford just cant get it right?
we should all drive classics
the ss camaro and srt 8 challenger wiegh 4300 lbs
big difference. so let them have 100 more horsepower, they need it.
btw remember the GT is the base V8 package? how many times do they need to tell all you guys?
also the 300 HP v6 camaro is going to be a failure. if you think about it the v6 cars are meant for people who dont need performance but like the looks of the cars. the insurance on those cars will be ridiculous, and many people will buy the v6 mustang over the v6 camaro
and lastly remember that there has been a mid performance model in between the GT and the GT 500 since 2003. im sure they will step up the shelby GT or introduce a mach 1 or bullitt or boss edition in between the cobra and GT
EVERY ONE DONT GET YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH,
seriously i cant remember a new mustang anyone liked. seems Ford just cant get it right?
we should all drive classics
2. The V6 will not be a failure you wait and see how it will overshadow the V6 Mustang and the insurance will not be ridiculous. I bet it will be the same as the V6 Mustang.
Using this argument i can just by a 2002 LS1 for 10K and use the remaining 16K to turbocharge the car and put it into deep 8's.
11-18-2008, 09:13 PM
#109
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Location: Houston, Tx
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11-18-2008, 09:19 PM
#110
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Houston, Tx
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I hate how people were thinking that this was going to be an ALL NEW mustang with a billion hp and a new engine (that was clearly not going to be ready).
I was hoping for an increase in power that was more than just 15 hp, like most people...as they did have decent hp increases for almost every generation.
The challenger is 650 pounds heavier than the 'new' mustang gt, so lets assume that the challenger now has 375 hp, instead of 425(assuming that it's excessive weight and hp balance with the new mustang). This seems to be a good comparable number, IMO.
Anybody know how much the camaro ss weighs in at?
I was hoping for an increase in power that was more than just 15 hp, like most people...as they did have decent hp increases for almost every generation.
The challenger is 650 pounds heavier than the 'new' mustang gt, so lets assume that the challenger now has 375 hp, instead of 425(assuming that it's excessive weight and hp balance with the new mustang). This seems to be a good comparable number, IMO.
Anybody know how much the camaro ss weighs in at?