stock GT500 supercharger fit on a GT?
#11
you would need a fabricated manifold, much like putting a 3.4 whipple on a 4.6 3v. they dont produce it bc they dont see it making any money since there are better aftermarket SC on the market (i mean the eaton one, not the whipple). but i guess it could be done, just not worth it IMO.
#12
Every product made is driven by how much return on investment is given. Though it is a great idea, and it will get you what you want (and Id want one too) these manufacturers and fabricators of these types of parts do not see, at least I dont think, the numbers they need to justify the R&D needed to produce an intake and supporting parts to adapt the GT500 blower.
#14
The only thing I can think of is that you will have to find an intake that will mate the block and the blower. Take into account that the GT500 is a 5.4 liter engine with a small blower. I think it is 2.1 liter size. Our engines are 8/10ths of a liter smaller so less displacement. So you will not see the same horsepower numbers as you would with a gt500. You could do a pulley change but the Eaton blowers have a problem with heat soak so you will need to keep that thing COOOOOLD to keep it efficient.
IMO if you were to do this swap...
find a wrecked gt 500
find an intake manifold -might have to go custom
get a high capacity heat exchanger from steeda/ afco or equiv.
New injectors and a boost a pump
There are other things you would need but starting from a wrecked gt500 would hook you up with most parts.... Hell just yank the motor as well and do a kb mammoth!!!!
But Since I have a blower and were to start over, I would go the same route I did
forged rotating assembly
blower designed for the 4.6.
good dyno tune
keep us posted with the ideas...
Matt
IMO if you were to do this swap...
find a wrecked gt 500
find an intake manifold -might have to go custom
get a high capacity heat exchanger from steeda/ afco or equiv.
New injectors and a boost a pump
There are other things you would need but starting from a wrecked gt500 would hook you up with most parts.... Hell just yank the motor as well and do a kb mammoth!!!!
But Since I have a blower and were to start over, I would go the same route I did
forged rotating assembly
blower designed for the 4.6.
good dyno tune
keep us posted with the ideas...
Matt
#15
i sent a email question:
"i have a question, is it possible to order the roush intake manifolds from a 3v tvs by itself? and if so, how much? also do the bolt patterns line up from a stock gt500 eaton m122 blower to that intake manifold?"
in a email reply from teamjdm.com:
"Yes the stock Gt500 blower will be a direct fit actually. The Manifold kit with intercooler adn all necessary parts for hook up are $3999 as a kit.
JimIII"
so, $4500 for a entire blower with intercooler.
i'm going to do some pricing around, maybe i can lower the cost to $4000 for the entire system (since a take off blower ran me $500).
there you have it folks, the TVS manifold is a direct fit.
i can't research at the moment but what are some prices on other complete kits?
"i have a question, is it possible to order the roush intake manifolds from a 3v tvs by itself? and if so, how much? also do the bolt patterns line up from a stock gt500 eaton m122 blower to that intake manifold?"
in a email reply from teamjdm.com:
"Yes the stock Gt500 blower will be a direct fit actually. The Manifold kit with intercooler adn all necessary parts for hook up are $3999 as a kit.
JimIII"
so, $4500 for a entire blower with intercooler.
i'm going to do some pricing around, maybe i can lower the cost to $4000 for the entire system (since a take off blower ran me $500).
there you have it folks, the TVS manifold is a direct fit.
i can't research at the moment but what are some prices on other complete kits?
#16
Superchargers are modular these days. They use the same blower on many different cars. they just change the lower intake, pulley snout, and inlet port. So in theory it would work but u need those pieces to work. Not to mention the other parts u need like pumps, injectors, and hardware. Now if u could find those parts cheap then I would say go for it.
#17
Hmm, if that kit were like 1K cheaper I'd say it would be a good thing. But for that price I'd rather go with an Edlebrock tuner kit or Roush TVS tuner kit and just add the few extra things you need.
I also don't think 4500 would cover it unless JDM's kit has more than I realize. I'd expect you'd still need injectors, plugs, fuel pump upgrade (BAP or GT500 pump) at least.
I also don't think 4500 would cover it unless JDM's kit has more than I realize. I'd expect you'd still need injectors, plugs, fuel pump upgrade (BAP or GT500 pump) at least.
#18
I was going to post that I think the TVS kit will work but you figured it out already. Honestly for the Cost I still think a "real" kit would be better, but it would work.
It would be nice to find the TVS manifold out of a wrecked stang than buying new.
It would be nice to find the TVS manifold out of a wrecked stang than buying new.