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Anybody broken spark plugs on engines 2008 & after?

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Old 08-06-2009, 08:36 AM   #1
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Default Anybody broken spark plugs on engines 2008 & after?

I know earlier models have had broken plugs. Does anyone know if their plugs have been broken while replacing either by themselves, dealer or local shop?
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:49 AM   #2
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I have pulled my plugs out before. Didn't have a problem at all. Just make sure you get your engine warm first. I guess some people had the problem because ford either didnt put on anti seize or the 2 piece plug failed and split at the crimp.

I would try it myself and see if you can do it. Plugs for our cars are mighty expensive though.

Also I thought they went with the new plugs for the 08+?
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:50 AM   #3
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GoldenPony has broke one off. Then the dealer broke off another 5 and tried sticking him with the bill.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:25 AM   #4
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Doesn't GoldenPony have a 2006? My engine was built December 2007 so I guess I'm in the danger zone.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:31 AM   #5
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Mine looked like they were still two piece with a crimp, but I folowed the TSB. However I noticed after I cracked them loose, they turned out by hand. Only 4k miles though on car when I put the S/C on and had to swap plugs.
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They changed the cylinder head sometime in 08.

You need to see if your car was built before the change or after. Check with Ford.
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my car was built in feb of 08 and i have the new heads.
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:43 PM   #8
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Dumb question, but this was just on the V8s, yes?
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:57 PM   #9
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my car was built in feb of 08 and i have the new heads.
My car was built in December 2007. I read somewhere that the new heads were installed with different coils. The new coils had BROWN plug boots instead of black. They also said the brown boot was the new plug/head design to eliminate the two piece plug breaking issues.

I just looked tonight and I have the brown plug boots. Is the information I read accurate?
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I've replaced the plugs in my '09 heads, with no issues at all. But to be fair, they were only in there for 500 miles. The stock ones were in there for 8k miles and removed with no issues. Heads were cold, too.
I used the NGK-equivalent of the 1-heat range colder FRPP plug, NGK 7554, ZNAR7AIX.
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I've replaced the plugs in my '09 heads, with no issues at all. But to be fair, they were only in there for 500 miles. The stock ones were in there for 8k miles and removed with no issues. Heads were cold, too.
I used the NGK-equivalent of the 1-heat range colder FRPP plug, NGK 7554, ZNAR7AIX.
Were your COP boots brown or black?
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Were your COP boots brown or black?
I have COPs that are from a '07, with the part number that starts with a "3". They are NOT the proper ones that come with the '08+ engines, which begin with a "8" I think. (The '09 engine I obtained did not have the COPs on them, so i had to find some.)
I've not had any issues using them, but would like to have the proper boots; the spring contacts the plug ok, but the boot itself is a little loose on the plug.

IIRC, the boots are black.
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I'm just trying to determine the best way to tell if I have the new head design without pulling out a spark plug.
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How often do we have to change plugs? I have 2005 Gt with 50000, do I have to replace them? If yes, wchich brand is the best?
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How often do we have to change plugs? I have 2005 Gt with 50000, do I have to replace them? If yes, wchich brand is the best?
You will want the Champion 7989 plugs. Ford says the stockers are good for 100K, but I have never run spark plugs that long. You also have the risk of breaking some due to carbon buildup and the stock 2 piece plug problems. There are many threads on this issue. The reason why I want to know what heads I have because I don't know if my car has the old head/plug style.
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There are two heads. They are marked on the driver's side valve cover with a giant white sticker with a bunch of numbers and the letters "AA" or "AB". I think the AA's are the two piece **** design, and the AB's are the revised. My 08 was build in mid 2007 and has the AA heads.
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How often do we have to change plugs? I have 2005 Gt with 50000, do I have to replace them? If yes, wchich brand is the best?
With 50,000 under the motors belt, you FOR SURE want to remove the plugs using the TSB method because they WILL have carbon build up and are at high risk from breakage on removal..
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There are two heads. They are marked on the driver's side valve cover with a giant white sticker with a bunch of numbers and the letters "AA" or "AB". I think the AA's are the two piece **** design, and the AB's are the revised. My 08 was build in mid 2007 and has the AA heads.
Thanks you so much Sir!

My car has the AB on the sticker and I am so relieved. I don't have to worry about the two piece plug failure now.
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I also found this tidbit of information on FRPP website.

  • 2008 engines with late style 12 mm spark plugs can be identified by coil engineering number 8L3E
  • 2005-2008 engines with early style 16 mm "High Thread" design spark plugs can be identified by coil engineering number 3L3E part number
I have the 8L3E coils, hence the new style heads/plugs. Whew! I feel so much better.
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Old 06-03-2010, 03:39 PM   #20
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I just did mine when i did the supercharger! 08 with updated heads,piece of cake
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