MustangForums.com

MustangForums.com (http://mustangforums.com/forum/index.php)
-   2005 - 2014 Mustangs (http://mustangforums.com/forum/2005-2014-mustangs-43/)
-   -   add SYNC to 2011 base model (http://mustangforums.com/forum/2005-2014-mustangs/585274-add-sync-to-2011-base-model.html)

mbyers 02-07-2010 08:52 PM

add SYNC to 2011 base model
 
I have looked through the forum and didn't this specific question.
Can SYNC be added to the base model 2011 V6 (i.e. non-Premium)?
Will be ordering the 2011 and I really want SYNC, but am not interested in leather.

I realize I would have to swap the Head Unit to the Shaker 500, but what about the rest of it? Looking at the forums it seems there is another module that is needed.
And what about a microphone? I'm sure that is needed.

Has anyone ever done this?
Have a parts list?

Thanks in advance for any help you an provide.

Lax07 02-07-2010 09:36 PM

as far as I know no one has done this. You might as well buy the premium with sync. If you don't buy a head unit with voice commands... Adding sync after would be very hard and very costly

7up 02-07-2010 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyers (Post 6801506)
Can SYNC be added to the base model 2011 V6 (i.e. non-Premium)?


You may want to ask/PM FordEngineer about this; he is involved in the design/implementation of various electronic & entertainment systems in our cars.

10GTSTANG 02-07-2010 10:47 PM

Hey D code, go with the premium, less hassle in the long run!

sdsguy 02-08-2010 11:11 AM

i'd say go premium and do a seat swap to cloth if you don't want leather. that'll probably be the cheapest and easiest thing to do

SirKnightTG 02-08-2010 12:37 PM

After getting the premium, I'll NEVER go back to the base model. Premium is so much more perty. :D

mbyers 02-10-2010 11:06 AM

Thanks everyone for your replies so far.

7up, I was thinking the same think. I figured I try the forum first. I have since PM'd FordEngineer; wish me luck.

10GTSTANG, understood. Because of finances I will be using this as my year round car. Which means Upstate NY winters :-( Had leather on a car in 2000 and it was cold in the winter. I know I can add heated seats, but it would still be cold at first. I don't know if the remote start would help. The remote start on my Malibu will automatically turn on the rear defogger, so maybe remote start on the Stang will automatically turn on the seats? A topic I didn't search for yet...

sdsguy, I was considering that option. So glad someone else said it out loud :-)

SirKnigthTG, I agree. I do like everything about the Premium (other than leather), makes it nicer. It is just that I can live without the other items. So I'm weighing the cost in all of this as well. Probably going to come down to: 1) no SYNC and save money; or 2) live with leather and spend a more; or 3) spend even more and add heat & remote start.

Lax07 02-10-2010 11:21 AM

I will tell you from experience... I am in MD right now and we are having a horrible winter... I previously had a G35x (the all wheel drive version)... When it snows you better be prepared not to go very far... I have turned my mustang on once since friday and that was to take my gf to get her car and I put it back...

FordEngineer 02-10-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsguy (Post 6802846)
i'd say go premium and do a seat swap to cloth if you don't want leather. that'll probably be the cheapest and easiest thing to do

Took the words out of my mouth.

There is a lot to SYNC besides the radio head ('ACM' in engineerspeak). There's an actual module (black box) that lives above your glovebox that's the real 'brains' of SYNC, a GPS module (used for the free turn-by-turn directions, traffic, and such) that's above that, just below the surface of your dash near the windshield, a microphone in the rearview mirror, steering wheel controls, USB port and Line-In jack in your center console, and bluetooth antenna. Not to mention all the wiring harnesses that need to be installed at build-time to connect it all together, as well as to your car's CAN bus (internal network), with modulation, so things like 911 Assist, Vehicle Health Report, and certain parts of Traffic, Directions, and Information can work.

All of that stuff bought separately (materials alone) may be more than the upgrade cost to the Premium version. Not to mention the labor to install it (if you have it done at a dealership). I will say that, having looked through the service manuals for the 2010 Mustang, there isn't a section that covers aftermarket installation of SYNC.

As I've said in other posts, I wouldn't say adding or changing OEM equipment is impossible, but I wouldn't try to do it. And I know how it works. Think about that.

I'll say that I do have the heated seats, and it's nice when it starts to get chilly out. However, like Lax07 said:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lax07 (Post 6807804)
When it snows you better be prepared not to go very far...

There is some truth to that statement. Make sure you take it out to a large parking lot and get familiar with how it handles in snow before you try it out on the roads. Light rear end + lots of HP + RWD + Snow = Not the same experience as a regular car.

FordEngineer 02-10-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyers (Post 6807787)
I have since PM'd FordEngineer; wish me luck.

Your PM reply was sent, BTW. Didn't want you to think I forgot about you.

mbyers 02-14-2010 01:14 PM

FordEngineer, Thank you for the info.
I was afraid all the wiring and stuff would not be there :-(
I am a little surprised the CAN bus isn't already in there though.

Everyone, as for winter driving I think I'll be fine. When I started driving it was in Upstate NY and with rear wheel drive cars. My first car was a 400hp Charger, so I was driving something with guts. So after spending 7+ years with rear wheel drive (without the current kind of snow tires) I'm not worried about being to handle it :-)
But I do appreciate the comments and concerns.

iq2002 04-05-2010 10:10 AM

I've read through this thread and maybe I'm beating the old horse some more here but I'd like to ask this question anyways.

I didn't realize that SYNC was this great until AFTER I bought my 2010 basic. Lack of research aside I've been wondering if the retro SYNC kit for the <2009 mustang would work for the 2010+ models

http://www.partscheap.com/v/vspfiles...nc_6-18-08.pdf

This kit has been going around for about $500 a pop and if the HMI could simply be replaced by the factory radio instead to work with the dashboard it would offer a clutter free ipod/bluetooth solution.

Any thoughts?

mbyers 04-09-2010 06:27 AM

I was thinking the same thing, but couldn't find anyone that did it. And after getting the response from Ford Engineer, I'm probably going to get the Premium package.
I've worked on my cars and do everything around the house, so I have no problem getting in there and changing things around. However, I would want to know there is a chance of sucess before I work on a new car. And when the guy working on wouldn't do it, I figured it was too much to try on a new car.
If you do try it on your car, do post back here.

DnDMan 04-19-2010 08:32 PM

Here's my question...since I bought my 2010 last year, I have regretted not getting the nav package with my GT Premium. Is there a way to add the center column with goodies if you DO have sync already? I've also got the seat heaters.

2011CS 04-20-2010 12:59 AM

Any dealer would be glad to swap out the seats if you wanted cloth instead.

Seen it done many times and always welcomed it, you will probably lose the value of the leather seats in the swap, but if you really don't want them who cares about a few hundred dollars VS not having the other equipment advantages you do desire.

Jeff

wilkinda 04-20-2010 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DnDMan (Post 6954042)
Here's my question...since I bought my 2010 last year, I have regretted not getting the nav package with my GT Premium. Is there a way to add the center column with goodies if you DO have sync already? I've also got the seat heaters.

When I first started looking for a 2010 I looked at several on the lot that had the regular Shaker 500 system.... none had the NAV. Dealer quoted me $2700 to swap in a FORD OEM Nav package. I ultimately ended up just ordering what I wanted.

iq2002 04-30-2010 08:58 AM

first of all, the more I reference the SYNC system I find it quite an all-around-system. Very impressive! as I studied it more I began to understand what FordEngineer meant by it being totally worth it getting the Premiums.

second, I realize that I've been going about this all wrong from the beginning. all I was looking for was a clean bluetooth integration (use the Phone button on the factory radio) and perhaps integrate the ipod to work behind the scenes. looking for a retro fitting of a sync system seems simply not worth its price now that i know the wazoo of features i'm forefeiting. simply put, it's not worth the money to buy a complex sync module on ebay only to be able to use it for a couple of features.

given that, i thought i'd share some of my findings for those who still might be interested in going with full fledged ford parts.



i've a fair amount of research on the sync module and found that it's a barebone computer that interacts with the radio console.

http://www.jasoneckert.net/blog/Entr...ft_module.html

my line of work is IT so i was fairly certain that all there was to this was to rearrange the harness so the HMI end would directly connect to the factory radio and voila! the retro fitting sync schematics helped a lot here

http://www.partscheap.com/PhotoDetai...=9R3Z-14D212-A

this is a clean cut solution with a little bit of engineering know-how on my part, but at $440 a pop definitely not worth the money! I might research further to find the sync module and the proper harness for cheap but at this point it makes more sense to go for an aftermarket bluetooth/ipod integration unit from PAC or other brand.

if anyone with a base model has found himself in the same predicament as me please throw a few aftermarket suggestions and i can research for it. i've already been talking with PAC a little and ppl from Crutchfield.

mbyers 05-03-2010 06:26 AM

iq2002, after reading your post I think I would tend to agree. All the fancy SYNC stuff would be great, but all I really am looking for is to use my phone via the Stereo. And use the button on the Stereo (and steering wheel if I swap it; there are other posts on the wheel swap) to control it.

So if you have mre details on going that route, please post them.

Chainsaw 05-03-2010 02:40 PM

IMO not worth the problems, just buy a Premium and sell the leather seats to a person with a base model.

Gene K 05-04-2010 07:19 AM

If your dealer can pull off a Fleet Option on a Retail Order: Ford Upfitter Package 800A would work on the GT if its still available in 2011. I dont know if their is an equivalent on the V6. Thats a Premium Package with Cloth Seats.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:43 AM.