The Undead Saleen - Rebuild Started
08-11-2010, 10:01 AM
#281
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Lol thanks.
Booze I'll be in touch later once I figure out where all my missing pieces are. The goal is to build something where if someone was rebuilding an engine, they could pretty much JUST use this guide. It would be like the Ford manual, only with shots of real engines, plus all the little GOTCHAS the manual leaves out.
Thats the goal anyways.
Booze I'll be in touch later once I figure out where all my missing pieces are. The goal is to build something where if someone was rebuilding an engine, they could pretty much JUST use this guide. It would be like the Ford manual, only with shots of real engines, plus all the little GOTCHAS the manual leaves out.
Thats the goal anyways.
08-11-2010, 11:38 AM
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Well so far I'm pretty busy 
. We all have great engine write-ups, and I think finding a good way to merge all of our experience into one write up would be great. I figured I'd write something up, then pass it along to those who have built and documented an engine for their input/edits/etc. I figured the outcome would be a nice post and possible PDF that someone could download for all their 4.6l/5.0 3v needs.
. We all have great engine write-ups, and I think finding a good way to merge all of our experience into one write up would be great. I figured I'd write something up, then pass it along to those who have built and documented an engine for their input/edits/etc. I figured the outcome would be a nice post and possible PDF that someone could download for all their 4.6l/5.0 3v needs.
08-11-2010, 12:52 PM
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Well so far I'm pretty busy . We all have great engine write-ups, and I think finding a good way to merge all of our experience into one write up would be great. I figured I'd write something up, then pass it along to those who have built and documented an engine for their input/edits/etc. I figured the outcome would be a nice post and possible PDF that someone could download for all their 4.6l/5.0 3v needs.
. We all have great engine write-ups, and I think finding a good way to merge all of our experience into one write up would be great. I figured I'd write something up, then pass it along to those who have built and documented an engine for their input/edits/etc. I figured the outcome would be a nice post and possible PDF that someone could download for all their 4.6l/5.0 3v needs.
08-11-2010, 03:57 PM
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it would be an all star cast of writers....one eyed *****, bruceh, explict, boozeshey and siggyman. i look forward to getting an advanced copy.
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12-25-2010, 12:11 PM
#287
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Would you change anything?
First off Great post! Unfortunatly I have found myself in a very similar situation. 7/2/10 I bought a 06 Saleen with 7400 miles on it. It was originally a non SC car. The previous owner bought and installed the 550 SC kit. 5 monthd to the day I ended up punching a hole in the ide of the block. If I were a betting man I bet they didn't forge the bottom end and left the compression ratio 10:1. I have been researching my options and then came accross this post. So my question is what would you add or change since the rebuild? I only want to do this once with my Saleen Any guideance is greatly appreciated.
Any guideance is greatly appreciated.
12-25-2010, 06:14 PM
#288
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Hey there. Sorry to hear that it happened to you as well. You're correct in that on the S281 and S281-S/C models they didn't forge the bottom end. I believe the stock ration was around 9.8:1, but someone can correct me on that.
What would I change since the build? Well, that would depend on your power goals. One, I'd get the Extreme Intake right away. The steeda unit I bought wasn't bad by any means, but I bought it because the Saleen Extreme intake was on backorder.
The other thing I'd do would be to start with 60lb injectors. The 39lbs work for my power levels, but if I wanted to go up from the 580 kit, I'd probably need to think about injectors.
Other than that, I have no complaints. Be sure and order a new windage tray if you get the stroker, and replace all of the timing components when you do the new build. Take no chances.
I have no complaints about the B302. Seems like a very high quality setup, that uses the Saleen 302 Extreme forged rotating assembly. Even my pistons were stamped Saleen. Not that it matters lol. I have heard good things about the Aluminator (non-stroked) shortblock as well. There are plenty here running that to high amounts of power. If you're keeping it Supercharged, I'd definitely go with a forged block.
I'm here often, so if you need help feel free to post or PM me. Once you start getting more into specifics, I'll hopefully be able to help more. Take pics when you start the build.
Let me know if you have an additional questions.
What would I change since the build? Well, that would depend on your power goals. One, I'd get the Extreme Intake right away. The steeda unit I bought wasn't bad by any means, but I bought it because the Saleen Extreme intake was on backorder.
The other thing I'd do would be to start with 60lb injectors. The 39lbs work for my power levels, but if I wanted to go up from the 580 kit, I'd probably need to think about injectors.
Other than that, I have no complaints. Be sure and order a new windage tray if you get the stroker, and replace all of the timing components when you do the new build. Take no chances.
I have no complaints about the B302. Seems like a very high quality setup, that uses the Saleen 302 Extreme forged rotating assembly. Even my pistons were stamped Saleen. Not that it matters lol. I have heard good things about the Aluminator (non-stroked) shortblock as well. There are plenty here running that to high amounts of power. If you're keeping it Supercharged, I'd definitely go with a forged block.
I'm here often, so if you need help feel free to post or PM me. Once you start getting more into specifics, I'll hopefully be able to help more
. Take pics when you start the build. Let me know if you have an additional questions
.
12-26-2010, 02:43 AM
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How much power did your Saleen supercharger make on the stock motor before it blew?
I am interested in how much power the Saleen stage 2 will put to the wheels. I am estimating about 440whp w/90 octane and 20% loss due to my auto trans..
I am interested in how much power the Saleen stage 2 will put to the wheels. I am estimating about 440whp w/90 octane and 20% loss due to my auto trans..
12-26-2010, 09:52 AM
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Look at my sig for 5 spd brenspeed saleen stage 2 numbers.... they advertise 500 flywheel, but the shop I got dyno'd at said I'm closer to 520 flywheel. I imagine an auto would pull 15-20hp less.