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Old 03-04-2011, 01:24 PM
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exactly. That pos will LOWER intake air and lower hp..

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Whats the problem? I find it completely believable that you might lose 20-35 hp by installing this.

If your going to try something like this atleast make sure your fan blade is efficient and doesnt have a flat spot taking up half of your intake tube.

Also good luck with simply feeding your engine more air and hoping it realizes its now "supercharged" so it can add gas.

This remind me, i do have an old leaf blower sitting around. Time to add some BOOST!
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:41 PM
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I think I'm gonna try this... But rather than pay for the part I'll probably just put my computer fan in my CAI, connect it to the alternator and see how it works out. I'm thinking it'll give me a good 20 hp!
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Old 03-04-2011, 05:00 PM
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If he dropped the price $194 I'd buy it to use as a desk fan in my office.
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:57 AM
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If anybody has extra money to just flush down the toilet,. I would love to see someone buy this POS and actually put it on the dyno. This thing has gotta restrict airflow and lower HP at high RPM.....but I want to know by how much HAHAHA
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:51 PM
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Wanna buy a galloon of snake oil
or a bridge in San Francisco?

Thats a glorified 25,000RPM hair dryer...
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 157dB
Wanna buy a galloon of snake oil
or a bridge in San Francisco?

Thats a glorified 25,000RPM hair dryer...
I don't know about that... a hair dryer probably actually flows much more CFM than this toy thingy does!
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And actually performs a function of drying hair.
That device there is designed to lighten your wallet.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:23 PM
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We all know this unit won't work, but I definitely think an electric PSI booster is a feasible idea.

I think the electrical demand and size of motor are the limiting factors.

Does anyone know how much CFM the blower would need to move to increase PSI?

How much CFM do our 4.6's pull at WOT?
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bmr4life
We all know this unit won't work, but I definitely think an electric PSI booster is a feasible idea.

I think the electrical demand and size of motor are the limiting factors.

Does anyone know how much CFM the blower would need to move to increase PSI?

How much CFM do our 4.6's pull at WOT?
Well, I think the biggest problem is the power required. IIRC, Whipple claimed their blower for the 4.6 siphoned a max of 20hp from the engine. A cursory search of Google shows that a motor that could spin that load would consume about 11.5 killowatts. At 12 volts DC, that would equate to 953 Amps... Might need a bigger alternator
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bmr4life
We all know this unit won't work, but I definitely think an electric PSI booster is a feasible idea.

I think the electrical demand and size of motor are the limiting factors.

Does anyone know how much CFM the blower would need to move to increase PSI?

How much CFM do our 4.6's pull at WOT?
A true and proper electric supercharger would be feasible.

The way I see one actually working, I see a proper screw compressor and manifold mounted on the engine. But instead of a belt turning the lobed rotors, a high torque electric motor does the duty. The motor will be a variable speed motor, and its RPMs would be completely independent of the crank RPM.
As a matter of fact, such an electric supercharger would be able to provide its most efficient boosts even if the engine is idling. (Not useful for the fuel-air curve to engine RPM, but hey, it would be possible).
Such a electric supercharger can be tuned with much more exact compression curves for the demands of the engine at every single RPM point throughout the entire RPM bandwidth.

And, no, such an electric supercharger will not cost $200. It will be big dollar, above $6000. And then, tables must be created to turn the compressor at the correct screw RPMs according to crank RPMs, fuel amount being shot into the engine, etc. Maybe a whole separate ECU might be needed to because the stock ECU might not have the circuitry to handle these additional tuning tables.
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