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Old 08-25-2011, 03:49 PM   #21
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Thats what I am thinking. Just use the cats once a year for inspection, than just have the rear 02's turned off and be good until my inspection is up another year later. What if I used the cats, but put anti foulers on the 02 sensor, THAN put it in the cat. This way its pulling the 02 sensors a little more out of the airflow of the cat.
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Old 08-25-2011, 03:50 PM   #22
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Just pass whoever's doing the inspection a couple bills under the table.

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Old 08-25-2011, 04:07 PM   #23
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Yes but new york plugs into an obdII port. It links all of my cars info on inspection right to the DMV. If I fail, the dmv knows about it and exactly why.

I was thinking what if I did the anti fouler trick with the cats?
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Old 08-25-2011, 04:32 PM   #24
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Put in CATS, pass the test. I doubt you'd even need anti-foulers, but you could use them for good measure. The only thing you have different than stock, that will make any difference at idle, should be the headers. Your idle fuel shouldn't have changed since the blower bypasses boost at idle anyways.
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I have long tubes with high flow cats too. I just load my emissions tune and drive for 50 miles, and it passes fine. They plug into the OBD port here too. It's only checking for a " system ready " indication. Brenspeed made me an emissions and race tune when they installed my Whipple.
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Than why is Jim at JDM saying there is a good chance I will still throw a code with the cats?

I dont think JDM is willing to help me here. It seems that they just want me to throw the stock exhaust on so there are no problems with codes or anything. I was thinking maybe have them turn on the rear 02's on my email tune so I can test all of this before I go in for my dyno tune. Like as of right now keep the car as is and just get anti foulers, load the tune with the 02's on and drive around for a few days and see if I get any codes. If I do get a code, than I know I wont pass inspection that way and I should maybe try the cats with anti foulers and try the same thing.
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Probably to cover his butt just in case. Or probably because their tune is rich at idle? As the other poster mentioned, you may need an "emissions tune".
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How do I go about an emmisions tune now? I just emailed JDM and asked if they could send me my SAME EXACT email tune I have now just with the rear 02's turned on this was I can test a few things before I remove the headers. If the go through with it, I am going to first try using 2 anti foulers to pull the rear 02 out of the air flow and drive around for a few days and see if I get any codes. If I dont I am going to pass by an inspection station and see if my car would pass right than and there. If I throw a code (most likely be p0430) I know that isnt going to work and than maybe try the high flow cats with the anti foulers. If that doesnt work I am just going to have to remove the headers.
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Thats what I am thinking. Just use the cats once a year for inspection, than just have the rear 02's turned off and be good until my inspection is up another year later. What if I used the cats, but put anti foulers on the 02 sensor, THAN put it in the cat. This way its pulling the 02 sensors a little more out of the airflow of the cat.
That's exactly what I've been telling you to do with the anti foulers.
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My emissions tune was just a tune that turned my 02's back on lol. So for me, it's my regular tune (now that Brenspeed fulfilled my original request).
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I know you guys have been telling me this, but its NOT what JDM is telling me so I am stuck between 2 great deals of advice lol. I sent JDM an email asking if they can turn my rear 02's on and if they do I am going to try the anti fouler trick. All I have to do is once a year put the anti foulers on and turn the rear 02's on to pass inspection I should be good. If JDM cant turn the rear 02's on I WILL BE PISSED!!!!! If they respond and say yes they can do it I will order the cats and anti foulers tomorrow
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I know you guys have been telling me this, but its NOT what JDM is telling me so I am stuck between 2 great deals of advice lol. I sent JDM an email asking if they can turn my rear 02's on and if they do I am going to try the anti fouler trick. All I have to do is once a year put the anti foulers on and turn the rear 02's on to pass inspection I should be good. If JDM cant turn the rear 02's on I WILL BE PISSED!!!!! If they respond and say yes they can do it I will order the cats and anti foulers tomorrow
If they say no, I think you should be able to buy your cats from Brenspeed and have them build you an emissions tune for free. It will be completely different from your JDM tune, but you'd only need it once a year.
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Exactly all I need is for this tune to be on for 3 days out of the whole year just to pass inspection. If JDM does turn them on for me I am going to order the cats and foulers, try with both of them installed and see if it throws a code. If it does throw a code I have no choice but to remove the headers, but I am hoping all will be good.
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I would just move.. we dont have these psycho tests in Kentucky
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Autos221 have you tried this before? This is what I was going to try when JDM turns my rear 02's on. I was thinking about adding the cats anyway though to tone down the exhaust a bit, but in the mean time I would just like to get the inspection issue out of the way.
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I wish you luck. I have never been able to pass NYS inspection with anything other than my stock tune. Yes, I asked Brenspeed to write an emissions friendly tune with the rear O2 sensors on, and they did. Still won't pass. After failing two years in a row with two different "emissions friendly" tunes, I now just put the stock tune in, drive it for a while and then have it inspected. Let me know how you make out, mine always read "sensors not ready" even after driving it 150 miles. It isn't simply the rear O2 sensors.
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Ray what mods do you have?
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The only mods I have are a CAI, tune, and FRPP axle back mufflers. I have tried tunes from VMP and Brenspeed, specifically asking for emissions friendly tunes with the rear O2 sensors turned on. Neither passed. Each year I take off the CAI, put my stock air filter on, reload the stock tune, and get the car inspected. Getting it done today as a matter of fact. Last year I even called Brenspeed and talked at length with a technician. I finally decided that it is easier just to switch back to stock than to keep taking it even 3 or 4 times before I got the sticker.
Has anyone given any thought to photoshopping the NYS inspection sticker?
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. First few times I went I failed, and then came to find out that despite mentioning I have to go through inspection, Brenspeed turned my rear O2's off in their tune. They wanted like 20 or 30 to turn them back on, but reminded them of my original request.
Brenspeed is pretty bad about this... Mines in the same boat, I was data logging and discovered mine were not working, called them and was like WTF, I wanted this working, they said to call back when its time to go though inspection :-|

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"sensors not ready" even after driving it 150 miles. It isn't simply the rear O2 sensors.
Do us a favor, go to your car with a laptop and your tuner, attempt to data log the rear O2s, see if there actualy on, or if you just get nothing but zero values.


People need to know they can find out before they go in if there going to fail for O2 readiness. All you need is your tuner, a usb cable (for SCT anyway), and a laptop with there software you get for free. I dont recall the exact name of the sensor but its easy enough to find when poking through the availables.
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