New M90 owner
02-19-2012, 05:12 PM
#42
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...gtTechTips.pdf
here is what kenne bell says about traction control and all there findings about supercharging the 3v motos
here is what kenne bell says about traction control and all there findings about supercharging the 3v motos
02-19-2012, 06:58 PM
#43
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maui
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Thank you Stephen. From the KB link:
"TRACTION CONTROL (LATE MODELS) - Traction control is a very nice feature to have, although it may cause some very serious
problems with your supercharged engine. When the factory traction control system is activated, it will lean the engine considerably and
remove ignition advance in an attempt to reduce engine horsepower output. The rear brakes will also be activated to eliminate wheel spin.
This, in theory makes for a very sound system. For a supercharged engine, this is not an ideal method. Traction control is to be used at the
discretion of the driver."
Exactly what I stated. Supercharging changes everything.
"TRACTION CONTROL (LATE MODELS) - Traction control is a very nice feature to have, although it may cause some very serious
problems with your supercharged engine. When the factory traction control system is activated, it will lean the engine considerably and
remove ignition advance in an attempt to reduce engine horsepower output. The rear brakes will also be activated to eliminate wheel spin.
This, in theory makes for a very sound system. For a supercharged engine, this is not an ideal method. Traction control is to be used at the
discretion of the driver."
Exactly what I stated. Supercharging changes everything.
02-20-2012, 07:43 PM
#44
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Arizona
Posts: 297
Thank you Stephen. From the KB link:
"TRACTION CONTROL (LATE MODELS) - Traction control is a very nice feature to have, although it may cause some very serious
problems with your supercharged engine. When the factory traction control system is activated, it will lean the engine considerably and
remove ignition advance in an attempt to reduce engine horsepower output. The rear brakes will also be activated to eliminate wheel spin.
This, in theory makes for a very sound system. For a supercharged engine, this is not an ideal method. Traction control is to be used at the
discretion of the driver."
Exactly what I stated. Supercharging changes everything.
"TRACTION CONTROL (LATE MODELS) - Traction control is a very nice feature to have, although it may cause some very serious
problems with your supercharged engine. When the factory traction control system is activated, it will lean the engine considerably and
remove ignition advance in an attempt to reduce engine horsepower output. The rear brakes will also be activated to eliminate wheel spin.
This, in theory makes for a very sound system. For a supercharged engine, this is not an ideal method. Traction control is to be used at the
discretion of the driver."
Exactly what I stated. Supercharging changes everything.
It does not lean the fuel it cuts it.
You can't be at WOT if there it NO fuel! There is no danger to the vehicle as you are NOT STARVING the engine for fuel.
And again no matter if the tune is rich or not it still doesn't have any effect on TC. Traction Control is not leaning the engine out it is CUTTING FUEL as in no fuel.
I agree there are no deals on new M90's, most vendors are pushing the R2300.
Last edited by BL00DSH0T; 02-20-2012 at 07:46 PM.
02-20-2012, 08:06 PM
#46
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Arizona
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Yeah I was surprised to see that statement. But common sense would say if that was true you would see a disclaimer from Whipple/Ford Racing too. I know alittle bit about how TCS work and that is just not correct.
Doesn't make sense as even with rich stock tunes you would have alot of blown factory cars.
I'm not telling anyone to change what they do, but this just doesn't make sense.
02-20-2012, 10:25 PM
#48
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02-20-2012, 10:42 PM
#49
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Ohio
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I can tell you this... I have a 07 Stage 3 Roush (M90) and the traction control is on by default. Theres no way they would take the time to make the car and then let it all be lost with the push of a button. I do turn mine off but thats just because I hate the damn thing.
As far as tires go, you take of and hit boost in a turn, you are going to spin. But my tires, Cooper RS3's hold the road extremely well. They came on the car but you can get them directly from roushperformance.com
As far as tires go, you take of and hit boost in a turn, you are going to spin. But my tires, Cooper RS3's hold the road extremely well. They came on the car but you can get them directly from roushperformance.com
