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Old 03-04-2012, 09:52 PM   #1
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Looking to upgrade my suspension in the very near future (hopefully placing order tomorrow) and was looking into the adjustable BMR UCA/LCA and noticed that there was a relocation bracket. I don't really know if or why it's necessary so I did a search on S197 only to come up with a description of people having it installed but no reason as to why. I'm sure it's as simple as re-configuring the geometry of the vehicle but am curious if anyone could further explain the need in order to justify purchasing them. Currently I'm getting ready to install Steeda Sport springs, Steeda HD strut mounts and Koni Yellows. Along with the BMR UCA/LCA I was looking into a BMR adjustable PHB too (just to give you a heads up of what my suspension is looking to be if that may help). Also, do I need to purchase the UCA bracket separate from the relocation bracket or does the relocation bracket cover both bases? Thanks for any help guys.

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This is the best explanation so far...just wondering which bracket I should go with:

"The relocation brackets are used to adjust ( instant center ). If you were to draw lines along the UCA and LCA's forward, they will intersect somewhere under the floor pan. This point is called instant center. You can adjust this point depending on track conditions for better traction. If you had a car that could pull the wheels off the ground, this would allow you to adj so they don't come to high off the ground. As you accelerate the rear pushes on the LCA's, as already said you don't want the LCA angling down at the body mount. It helps with weight transfer. If you look at the UCA mount you will see that there are two styles for sale. They have one with holes up and down( drag ), and they make another with holes front and back. (road racing)" -gil_t2 from S197forum
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Nevermind...didn't fully understand the rear suspension set-up until I did a little more research.
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Not sure if you've figured it out yourself, but scroll to the bottom here for the relocation brackets, or read the whole thing. It's a good read.

http://www.cherod.com/mustang/HowTo/LCA%20_adj.htm
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Good read for sure. I've always said, the best thing to know with your vehicle is not "How" it works, but "Why" it works.
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Not sure if you've figured it out yourself, but scroll to the bottom here for the relocation brackets, or read the whole thing. It's a good read.

http://www.cherod.com/mustang/HowTo/LCA%20_adj.htm
Very good read. I'm not too worried about road noise, just viration and clunking so this helped out a lot. Not too mention that angle description is spot on!


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Great read from that. I learn sth today..

Sooo.....what are you gonna do with your car Baker...
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Great read from that. I learn sth today..

Sooo.....what are you gonna do with your car Baker...
Just placed an order with Brenspeed (literally ten minutes ago, lol). Ordered BMR billet LCA's (w/relocation bracket), BMR adjustable UCA (w/UCA mount), BMR adjustable PHB and Steeda HD mounts....can't wait to couple that with my Koni Yellows (also ordered this weekend from Sam) and Steeda Sport springs!!!


Had to put the Cams/Headers on hold for now...hopefully will be able to do them early next year. (I've actually become VERY interested in the Vortech V3 HO kit recently so we will see what I do).
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Just placed an order with Brenspeed (literally ten minutes ago, lol). Ordered BMR billet LCA's (w/relocation bracket), BMR adjustable UCA (w/UCA mount), BMR adjustable PHB and Steeda HD mounts....can't wait to couple that with my Koni Yellows (also ordered this weekend from Sam) and Steeda Sport springs!!!


Had to put the Cams/Headers on hold for now...hopefully will be able to do them early next year. (I've actually become VERY interested in the Vortech V3 HO kit recently so we will see what I do).
then I assume that you are going to drag race your car huh...great..
I had my car lowered a lil bit, I think I need a new LCA and UCA too...thinking the steeda ones..I'll see how yours work and figure out what's next..lol...

Ya, if you had your TB done then the Vortech will be worth it.. I'm looking at the new Roush package..Last time when I was there, I saw that the Roush chager with the Carbon Fider tube looks soooooo good to me...I have to save up some more for that beast..i used to like the turbo sound from the Procharger one, but it's too loud to me when I saw that in person..
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Yea, other than shows I plan on hitting the drag strip ever now and then. Might be doing a little autocross as well. I just figured I'd take care of most of my suspension upgrades when I'm lowering it to avoid any problems (we'll see). I am planning on doing a write-up on all the installs so I'll keep you posted. Can't wait to see what kind of '60 time I can pull with these.
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If you have lowered suspension the you may wish to look into relocation brackets, as for adjustable lower arms not even required on the street at all don't waste time or money. Fixed lowers, adjustable upper and reloc brackets if you're lowered. May I recommend CHE
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If you have lowered suspension the you may wish to look into relocation brackets, as for adjustable lower arms not even required on the street at all don't waste time or money. Fixed lowers, adjustable upper and reloc brackets if you're lowered. May I recommend CHE
I ordered exactly that to compliment Steeda Sports with Koni Yellows. Went with BMR. Heard great things about CHE too though.
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If you have lowered suspension the you may wish to look into relocation brackets, as for adjustable lower arms not even required on the street at all don't waste time or money. Fixed lowers, adjustable upper and reloc brackets if you're lowered. May I recommend CHE
Do you have experience with CHE's anti-squat brackets? I like the look and construction of them, I'm just wondering if they'd be ok to put on a lowered car since there's only one hole for the arms. I like that, and if it would have it angled slightly downward if I was on k springs, that's what I want to get.
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I have plenty of experience with them, one hole is all you really need for a street car. The CHE units a very stout and true, plenty of people out there running them into single digits.
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The OP will be happy with the BMR/Steeda parts he ordered from Brenspeed.

That said, many of the quickest S197 drag cars do not run the relo brackets and most of the fastest open track S197s do not run them.

Obviously, they are not necessary. Personally, I don't install unnecessary parts in critical areas on my car. That said, many people are happy with the relo brackets.

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I have plenty of experience with them, one hole is all you really need for a street car. The CHE units a very stout and true, plenty of people out there running them into single digits.
I don't doubt how stout they are, I'm just curious if the one hole is low enough for a lowered car. I know the whole point is to angle the LCA down, and if the car's lowered I don't want it to be pointing up due to the lowering springs. I actually prefer that it has one hole; that, their rep, and how thick they are is why I'm looking at them.

So is it low enough for a lowered car?
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Just placed an order with Brenspeed (literally ten minutes ago, lol). Ordered BMR billet LCA's (w/relocation bracket), BMR adjustable UCA (w/UCA mount), BMR adjustable PHB and Steeda HD mounts....can't wait to couple that with my Koni Yellows (also ordered this weekend from Sam) and Steeda Sport springs!!!


Had to put the Cams/Headers on hold for now...hopefully will be able to do them early next year. (I've actually become VERY interested in the Vortech V3 HO kit recently so we will see what I do).
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About time you came around Mr. Whipple!!! Speaking of strut mounts I will probably order some this week as well!
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