CAI and Bama tune.. Disappointed so far
#81
#82
Hey, guys! Just came across this thread...
To the OP, 2012Kona, as of your most recent post, you're satisfied and the tunes seem to have loaded properly, right? If you're still having problems, please let me know and I'll take care of it! I see you have an Airaid intake, did you order it tune-required (with the venturi-tube removed) or no? If not, please remove the VT because the tune is likely set up to run without it. Feel free to post up here or contact me via PM if you're unsure of which one you got.
You'll also notice the biggest change in performance when you switch to the 93 tune. Give that a try and get back to us with some feedback. Once you've got a couple of 93 octane tanks of gas run through the car, switch the tune to 87 Street (you can run 93 octane fuel on an 87 tune safely, contrary to what that person was trying to argue with you earlier) and drive around a little and then go back to the 93 Race. For an even bigger comparison, reflash the car and go back to stock for a day or two and then reflash to the 93 Race tune. That should give you some idea of the change. It truly is night and day over stock, even on 2011+ models. If not, I'll get you in touch with Mike Wilson from Bama who will figure out what's not working!
We've spent a ton of man-hours developing our tunes on the dyno, testing them on the strip and putting them through their paces on the streets in our own fleet of 15+ Mustangs, 4 of them of which are 2011+ models. Couple that with our 30+ employee owned Mustangs and the tens of thousands of customer owned Mustangs running our tunes, all we do is make Mustangs go faster. Several of those customers are right here on the forum.
That said, we also take more time than anyone else to recognize customer reviews/issues to make sure that you guys are enjoying our tunes as much as we are. If you ever have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact our Tuning Specialists directly or hit me up and I can put you in touch with them. Have a good one!
To the OP, 2012Kona, as of your most recent post, you're satisfied and the tunes seem to have loaded properly, right? If you're still having problems, please let me know and I'll take care of it! I see you have an Airaid intake, did you order it tune-required (with the venturi-tube removed) or no? If not, please remove the VT because the tune is likely set up to run without it. Feel free to post up here or contact me via PM if you're unsure of which one you got.
You'll also notice the biggest change in performance when you switch to the 93 tune. Give that a try and get back to us with some feedback. Once you've got a couple of 93 octane tanks of gas run through the car, switch the tune to 87 Street (you can run 93 octane fuel on an 87 tune safely, contrary to what that person was trying to argue with you earlier) and drive around a little and then go back to the 93 Race. For an even bigger comparison, reflash the car and go back to stock for a day or two and then reflash to the 93 Race tune. That should give you some idea of the change. It truly is night and day over stock, even on 2011+ models. If not, I'll get you in touch with Mike Wilson from Bama who will figure out what's not working!
We've spent a ton of man-hours developing our tunes on the dyno, testing them on the strip and putting them through their paces on the streets in our own fleet of 15+ Mustangs, 4 of them of which are 2011+ models. Couple that with our 30+ employee owned Mustangs and the tens of thousands of customer owned Mustangs running our tunes, all we do is make Mustangs go faster. Several of those customers are right here on the forum.
That said, we also take more time than anyone else to recognize customer reviews/issues to make sure that you guys are enjoying our tunes as much as we are. If you ever have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact our Tuning Specialists directly or hit me up and I can put you in touch with them. Have a good one!
Last edited by AMDanBailer; 04-02-2012 at 02:22 PM.
#83
Your not alone thats for sure. I have a 6MT also with a JLT CAI and a Bama tune. I couldn't have been more unhappy when I first got it with the stories i had been hearing. I also had the stalling issue and honestly not any more performance then stock with the 87 tune, and i ran the same 1/4 mile in Performance as Race. I turned up the idle in the car and that helped with eliminating the stalling. Musta been asked 123810381203 times if i had the MAF in the right way, seriously were not that stupid.
I went from running a 12.90 stock on streets to running a 12.69 on dr's, with cai, tune, and boss intake. I emailed Bama and the guy over the email was great and I figured there wasnt a big deal. TheThen i drove my buddys '11 that has the same mods and it felt like an 8 banger compared to a 6. I called Bama, and well, they talked to me like a moron and pretty much said it had to be my driving. American Muscle's customer support is awesome, but the Bama guys sometimes talk down to you acting like you cant drive or dont know anything. I did however call another tuner and had em send a tune out to compare, this new one is ALOT more agressive in the idle and throttle response.
I went from running a 12.90 stock on streets to running a 12.69 on dr's, with cai, tune, and boss intake. I emailed Bama and the guy over the email was great and I figured there wasnt a big deal. TheThen i drove my buddys '11 that has the same mods and it felt like an 8 banger compared to a 6. I called Bama, and well, they talked to me like a moron and pretty much said it had to be my driving. American Muscle's customer support is awesome, but the Bama guys sometimes talk down to you acting like you cant drive or dont know anything. I did however call another tuner and had em send a tune out to compare, this new one is ALOT more agressive in the idle and throttle response.
Are you still running our tune? I can't tell from your last sentence if you called another one of our tuners or another tuning company altogether. Either way, I'd be happy to get you and our Lead Calibrator Mike Wilson on the phone together so he can set you up with the best tune possible. He's the man and he'll take the time to listen to your input and provide the best tune possible. Please feel free to get back to me here, but I did PM you. Let me know!
Thank you most importantly for your patience and understanding. Have a great afternoon!
Last edited by AMDanBailer; 04-02-2012 at 02:24 PM.
#84
I feel your pain!!! I just got my 3 custom tunes in yesterday from bama. ORDER #: 1496864.
I also have only a JLT cai and pypes exhaust. I loaded up the 89 performance tune. Started it up and the idle went crazy. First it was around 800rpm then would drop down to like 400rpm, bog, damn near stall out, and then jump back up to around. Over and over again it ws horrible. Also when I come up to a stop the engine idle drops super low, bogs, damn near dies, then comes back up. This also happened with bama's 93 octane race tune.
I then load SCT'd pre canned 89 tune into the car and BOOM PROBLEM GONE car runs great.
Needless to say I'm so disappointed with bama . $150 pretty much completely wasted. I could have jsut ordered my pypes mid pipe and used the sct canned tune all along.
I want my money back AmericanMuscle.
I also have only a JLT cai and pypes exhaust. I loaded up the 89 performance tune. Started it up and the idle went crazy. First it was around 800rpm then would drop down to like 400rpm, bog, damn near stall out, and then jump back up to around. Over and over again it ws horrible. Also when I come up to a stop the engine idle drops super low, bogs, damn near dies, then comes back up. This also happened with bama's 93 octane race tune.
I then load SCT'd pre canned 89 tune into the car and BOOM PROBLEM GONE car runs great.
Needless to say I'm so disappointed with bama . $150 pretty much completely wasted. I could have jsut ordered my pypes mid pipe and used the sct canned tune all along.
I want my money back AmericanMuscle.
Thanks for contacting me and letting me know about this. I've already gotten back to you via PM, but figured I'd chime in, here.
Our Street, Performance and Race tunes are hand-written by our Tuning Specialists at Bama to out perform the stock calibration and even the canned-tunes that come on programmers. Something definitely wasn't right in either the tune calibration or the tune upload process. To confirm we're good on our end, I'd like you to chat with our Lead Calibrator Mike Wilson who will look at your tunes with you over the phone and get you new calibration files if necessary. This should get you straightened out! If not, I'll get you your money back. I promise. It's probably a 5 minute fix, and I'm really sorry that it's been a nightmare to deal with us. We'll fix that. There was just a meeting about this thread, and we're not taking it lightly at all!
I replied to your last PM, so get back to me whenever you get a chance. Thanks again for the heads-up and giving me a chance to make this right for you. Have a great afternoon, James!
Last edited by AMDanBailer; 04-02-2012 at 02:26 PM.
#85
On my 2010 GT, I had the CAI/Tuner from AM and it did not work for me. I kept on telling myself it was better but in the end, it seemed to me it was no better than stock. I tried all 3 tunes with the octane accordingly. Then you have to deal with properly oiling (when its time to clean it) the filter or the car will die frequently. I will never do a CAI/Tuner again. Just my .02 cents.
Who knows, maybe mine was off as well.
I instead got rid of the 2010 for a 2012 and man is there a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck
Who knows, maybe mine was off as well.
I instead got rid of the 2010 for a 2012 and man is there a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck
Get back to me either here or via PM. Take care!
#86
Hey, guys! Just came across this thread this weekend, but didn't get a chance to chime in then and wanted to do so now.
To the OP, 2012Kona, as of your most recent post, you stated that you're satisfied and the tunes seemed to have loaded properly as of now, is that correct? If you're having troubles, please don't hesitate to let us know. I see you have an Airaid intake, did you order it tune-required (with the venturi-tube removed) or no? If not, please remove the VT because the tune is likely set up to run without it. Feel free to post up here or contact me via PM if you're unsure of which one you got.
You'll also notice the biggest change in performance when you switch to the 93 tune. Give that a try and get back to us with some feedback. Once you've got a couple of 93 octane tanks of gas run through the car, switch the tune to 87 Street (you can run 93 octane fuel on an 87 tune safely, contrary to what that person was trying to argue with you earlier) and drive around a little and then go back to the 93 Race. For an even bigger comparison, unflash the car and go back to stock for a day or two and then reflash to the 93 Race tune. That should give you some idea of the change. It truly is night and day over stock, even on 2011+ models.
We've spent an immeasurable amount of man-hours developing our tunes on the dyno, testing them on the strip and putting them through their paces on the streets in our own fleet of 15+ Mustangs, 4 of them of which are 2011+ models. Couple that with our 30+ employee owned Mustangs and the tens of thousands of customer owned Mustangs running our tunes, all we do is make Mustangs go faster. Several of those customers have chimed-in here to support that claim.
That said, we also take more time than anyone else to recognize and consider customer reviews/issues to ensure that you guys are enjoying our tunes as much as we are. If you ever have any questions or concerns in the future, please feel free to contact our Tuning Specialists directly or hit me up and I can put you in touch with them. Have a good one!
To the OP, 2012Kona, as of your most recent post, you stated that you're satisfied and the tunes seemed to have loaded properly as of now, is that correct? If you're having troubles, please don't hesitate to let us know. I see you have an Airaid intake, did you order it tune-required (with the venturi-tube removed) or no? If not, please remove the VT because the tune is likely set up to run without it. Feel free to post up here or contact me via PM if you're unsure of which one you got.
You'll also notice the biggest change in performance when you switch to the 93 tune. Give that a try and get back to us with some feedback. Once you've got a couple of 93 octane tanks of gas run through the car, switch the tune to 87 Street (you can run 93 octane fuel on an 87 tune safely, contrary to what that person was trying to argue with you earlier) and drive around a little and then go back to the 93 Race. For an even bigger comparison, unflash the car and go back to stock for a day or two and then reflash to the 93 Race tune. That should give you some idea of the change. It truly is night and day over stock, even on 2011+ models.
We've spent an immeasurable amount of man-hours developing our tunes on the dyno, testing them on the strip and putting them through their paces on the streets in our own fleet of 15+ Mustangs, 4 of them of which are 2011+ models. Couple that with our 30+ employee owned Mustangs and the tens of thousands of customer owned Mustangs running our tunes, all we do is make Mustangs go faster. Several of those customers have chimed-in here to support that claim.
That said, we also take more time than anyone else to recognize and consider customer reviews/issues to ensure that you guys are enjoying our tunes as much as we are. If you ever have any questions or concerns in the future, please feel free to contact our Tuning Specialists directly or hit me up and I can put you in touch with them. Have a good one!
#87
Reflashing is in progress. The directions say nothing about letting it sit and idle for 10 minutes. I didn't do that. The MAF will fit going either direction. I tested it. I have only run the car with it facing the way I feel is correct. I have noticed it takes much longer then 2 minutes to flash. Seems faster going back to stock then it does going with the tune.
When I had some issues with my Steeda CAI (auto) and tunes from Bama I was surprised that there was no mention of the idle relearn in the directons either. Unless it varies by CAI brand, the idle relearn AM told me to do is to let it idle for 3 minutes, then turn on the AC and let idle for 3 more, then just drive it and it should be fine.
Although I had a different problem, over a few days they were able to correct the issue with new tunes. Call Bama if you haven't already.
- Jason
Last edited by Jason0279; 04-02-2012 at 01:00 PM.
#88
Just called Bama. They do in fact make the tunes assuming the venturi tube has been removed. So... between Bama and AM you should make your customers aware this is the case. Could save you both some headache in the future. There are several customers out there that have no idea this is the way it should be installed. IT'S NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE!
I'm reflashing to the 89 tune just to see if the issues are resolved by pulling the tube.
Took some pics for reference. Will post as soon as I get them resized. This site don't seem to like 18mp photos?? Seems so > ish
I'm reflashing to the 89 tune just to see if the issues are resolved by pulling the tube.
Took some pics for reference. Will post as soon as I get them resized. This site don't seem to like 18mp photos?? Seems so > ish
#90
CAI and a Bama 91 Race Tune....COMPLETELY changed the personality of my 08 GT.....it was like night and day difference.
Stock , I was running in the 14's consistently.....
Bama Tune , 13.80's right away (60' 2.2)
3.73 Install , 13.60's all day long (60' 1.9)
no dissappointments here.............................................. ....
Stock , I was running in the 14's consistently.....
Bama Tune , 13.80's right away (60' 2.2)
3.73 Install , 13.60's all day long (60' 1.9)
no dissappointments here.............................................. ....