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Old 03-31-2012, 07:13 AM   #1
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Hey guys I've been considering a mustang for awhile. I was thinking of trying to get a 13 V6 with a few options and then would most likely do the basic bolt-ons like drive shaft, CAI and tuner, exhaust, ect. but to get it where I would want it to say around 350hp or so that would add up pretty quick although I could do it a little at a time. I keep going back and forth bet. wanting a stang and another genesis coupe. It looks like a new base 2.0t is going to be around 25.5k and I don't like the dealer. So for the heck of it I looked up the 12 GT on truecar to see what kind of deals there were. To my surprise a dealer called me with a tentative offer of 25.6k for a base 12 silver GT. I really didn't want another silver car as my last two have been, but that seems like a pretty good deal. I like the looks of the 13's better as well as the track app and the leather steering wheel, ect. but I know I can't afford a 13 GT and you can always get an aftermarket steering wheel and I wouldn't really need any mods with over 400hp. I'll still have to check out what kind of financing I can get and insurance, ect., but if I can swing a deal around $400 or so a month, which I don't know if that is possible? But maybe I can even get a little on trade in on my lease since the Hyundai dealer said I probably have some equity in it since the residual is pretty low. What do you guys think? I'm thinking I should at least check it out even though its up in Mich. Maybe he can locate a trade for gray or black and then it would be awesome.
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:20 AM   #2
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I was extremely close to buying a 2012 base GT brembo pkg for 26K. You can always add leather and the upgraded steering wheel for cheap. Roush has an eBay store that sells them. I ended up locating a GT Premium Brembo and I could not be happier. The 13's are nice but the 3K off made the deal for me. That enabled me to get a lower note and a few mods! Good luck. The one thing I would not do (my opinion) is buy the 2013 V6 when you can get a 2012 V8.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:17 AM   #3
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I know the 2012 GT would be great, but a 2013 premium V6 would be right around the same price. I don't know, the interior would be nicer in the premium with the mycolor and the 2013 upgrades like track app and the rear lights and I like the premium wheels better. I don't know if I would be satisfied with the 305hp? It would be an upgrade for me coming from about 240hp in my flashed coupe, but the torque would be about the same. But like I said, I would most likely do some mods for the V6 that would be good and bad. It would take some time and cost some money obviously, but it would be unique and be pretty nice when done and get slightly better mileage. But then again it would never be as fast as a stock GT without some major engine mods or FI and you never get back what you put into it with major mods. Plus with the base GT, I could concentrate more on cosmetic mods and interior like steering wheel and maybe some Recaros later on.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:31 AM   #4
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Get the 12 GT. You'll be happier in the long run. Trust me.
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:17 AM   #5
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Yes trust us, I have a 6er but it was a gift. I want a V8 but I cant swing it now so I just gotta like what I got
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:46 PM   #6
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You can get an awesome deal on the 12 GT.... No brainer GET IT!.. I heard roomers that they canceled orders on the mustangs with the track app... not sure if this is true though. Either way V8>V6.... a 2012 GT will smoke you in you 2013 V6 even with mods...... Just go drive one lol
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:17 PM   #7
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Get the 5.0... may get a few less mpg but isnt that the point of performance? hehe
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:41 AM   #8
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:28 AM   #9
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I know the 2012 GT would be great, but a 2013 premium V6 would be right around the same price. I don't know, the interior would be nicer in the premium with the mycolor and the 2013 upgrades like track app and the rear lights and I like the premium wheels better. I don't know if I would be satisfied with the 305hp? It would be an upgrade for me coming from about 240hp in my flashed coupe, but the torque would be about the same. But like I said, I would most likely do some mods for the V6 that would be good and bad. It would take some time and cost some money obviously, but it would be unique and be pretty nice when done and get slightly better mileage. But then again it would never be as fast as a stock GT without some major engine mods or FI and you never get back what you put into it with major mods. Plus with the base GT, I could concentrate more on cosmetic mods and interior like steering wheel and maybe some Recaros later on.
If you don't buy the gt and get the v6 for some bells and whistles you are gonna be pissed at yourself. There is no subsitution for the V8!! Go for the gt and lay some rubber down you won't regret it I promise..where else can you get 400 plus hp for less that 30,000.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:35 AM   #10
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So you are considering a 2013 V6 and a 2012 GT but you also say that over time you can put money into performance upgrades on the V6? Heck...you just take the money you were planning on the performance upgrades and do appearance upgrades on the GT. It's a heckuva lot easier to make it look prettier when you already got the power then it is the other way around. Your chances of screwing up the car with performance mods are a lot higher then some stickers and swapping seat skins, steering wheels, etc....

Buy the V8.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #11
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Yep, no brainer here. Buy a 2012 5.0. You don't want buyer's remorse when it hits you that you could've had 107 more ponies (and a ton more torque) right out of the box still under warranty!

You can always put in leathers and other interior upgrades down the road, but again, you'd be hard-pressed to get as much out of the 3.7 motor in the lower rpms as the 5.0. Even then, you'd be approaching used 2012 territory!
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:23 PM   #12
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I hear what you guys are saying, but I like the look of the 13's a little better though. Is it easy to upgrade the stereo? I know you can't add mycolor later, but that's probably just fluff anyway. What kind of real world mileage are you guys getting? If its at least in the mid-20's range I guess I could live with that and the 5.0 takes reg. right?
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:24 AM   #13
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Why is this even a choice? Nothing against the V6, and for the first time ever, kudos to Ford for putting some ***** in the entry level Mustang, but go drive both and the choice will become very clear to you. It's cheaper to add leather and a new steering wheel to the base GT then it is to get the V6 to a reliable power level of the Coyote.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:03 PM   #14
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Good news and bad news guys. I finally talked to the sales guy that could get the silver 5.0. I guess he doesn't actually have it there as its further up north and his dealership is a good 90 mile trip. He thought he could get me another color too, but I guess the 2012's are getting hard to come by with only minor options with the 13's coming out. There was a black one but it had California emissions so he can't sell that in Mich. for some reason. He does have a black 13 with recaro, but I'm sure its way too much and he also has a couple 12 loaded V6's for about 3500 off. But he said he could probably get me that silver GT for just over 25k! He went down about $500 and I did'nt even see it yet. So I think I'll at least drive up and check it out since they want to appraise my car and if I like their GT I'll have to take the mods off my car and make another trip. If I can get a little something out of my car and get decent financing (fingers crossed) I may be driving a pony before you know it...
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:42 PM   #15
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Good news and bad news guys. I finally talked to the sales guy that could get the silver 5.0. I guess he doesn't actually have it there as its further up north and his dealership is a good 90 mile trip. He thought he could get me another color too, but I guess the 2012's are getting hard to come by with only minor options with the 13's coming out. There was a black one but it had California emissions so he can't sell that in Mich. for some reason. He does have a black 13 with recaro, but I'm sure its way too much and he also has a couple 12 loaded V6's for about 3500 off. But he said he could probably get me that silver GT for just over 25k! He went down about $500 and I did'nt even see it yet. So I think I'll at least drive up and check it out since they want to appraise my car and if I like their GT I'll have to take the mods off my car and make another trip. If I can get a little something out of my car and get decent financing (fingers crossed) I may be driving a pony before you know it...
Tell them all it takes is a new steering wheel. Then all you need is 7-800 for the leather installed. These two items are on my list too. I don't really think the cloth seats are bad. I would really like one of those new steering wheels. Wouldn't mind swapping out the instrument cluster either. Has anyone ever done this?
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IMO, the Mustang is about the engine, not the stereo or the mycolor or the interior.
its about the 8 cylinders of american muscle.
i would not even mention a Hyundai in the same sentence.
if a 6 and 8 were in the same price range, its a no brainer.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:08 AM   #17
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Yeah, I think I have to go with the V8 if its doable. I found another dealer that can get a black 5.0 base with a/w mats for about $800 more over in IN. Its a little further away but he says they could even deliver it. It's probably worth it for the color I really want to pay the little bit extra although I'm sure that color is harder to keep clean. If nothing else I should be able to find out if my credit is good enough and ballpark payment.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:53 AM   #18
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Well guys, my hopes may have been dashed. The dealer just called and said it would most likely be in the mid-400's for a 72 month term. I was hoping for upper 300's to 400 at worst. I don't understand as a 25k car at 5.99% is only about 390 according to the auto calc. which must not be considering the doc fees, tags, taxes, ect. It looks like I won't be getting anything for my lease either as I was hoping for a couple grand equity. I guess because I was in an accident last year they are only going to give me my payoff at around 16k instead of trade-in value that is about 18k. I don't know how they for sure without even seeing it as its a clean car with low miles. I don't know maybe I was expecting too much. I knew my interest was going to be on the high side because of filing bk last year, but I have always paid my car and house payments on time. I'm at least going to let him run my credit to be sure. If it comes down to really low 400's I may consider it, if not may have to look for something cheaper I guess.

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Old 04-04-2012, 12:17 PM   #19
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Your doing this all backwards man. Go to your bank or credit union, and have them run your credit first to find out where you stand. Ford will submit you app to hundreds of different loan organizations which is truly brutal to your credit even if you do not finance anything.


Here is what you need to do.
First you do not need ford to tell you what you can afford and so on. Their finance department will run your credit a million times trying to find someone willing to loan you the money. GO TO YOUR BANK OR CREDIT UNION TO SEE WHERE YOU STAND AND WHAT FINANCING THEY WILL OFFER YOU FIRST tell them you are looking at a car that cost 25k, and will probably end up being 27k w. TTL. I pay 405 a month for almost this exact financing.

Next you need to go on ford.com and search for all the 2012 base 5.0s within a 50 mile radius or so. After you find the one you want call and get them as low on the price as you can w/ the rebates that you qualify for. There are many so search for these rebates. There are even discounts for financing through a credit union. Once you have one dealerships price on THE car you want call another dealership that has a car maybe in a different color but same package and get them as low as they can go. Go back to the one you want and show them the now lower bid from the opposing dealship and they will either knock down the price or you can ask for things. Okay then you match their price AND put the security system on mine. Or some free oil changes... give me a good deal on leather seats.... blah blah blah. work them

STAY PATIENT AND DO NOT RUSH!!! I have a lot more advise that I'm leaving out in regards to buying a new car, but really am just tired of lecturing you. Long story short dont let them run your credit, and work the dealers against each other, and also make sure your getting all the discounts possiable
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Same thing goes for trading in your Leased car. Have them put their off on paper then go somewhere else and get another offer. Here is what I did for my younger brother just to give you and idea of how bad they try to low ball you assuming your going to give them your car for a new one.

Took my brothers 2008 Chevy 1500 to carmax to have it appraised they offered 17500, but the truck was worth 20500. Their offer said that they would give 17500, and another 1,000 off the taxes if he purchased another vehicle through them.... He didnt want a new vehicle because he only owed 14200 on the truck.. He wanted the equity. So we were looking at 3,300 in equity there...

I took this quote, on paper, next door to a Chevy dealer but did not show them it. Had them also appraise the truck.. They returned with a quote of 18,000... 500 better than what car max was offering minus their discount. I then pulled out my paper showing the tax discount if I bought through them, and said that that is equivilent to 18,500 and I will just take my business there. The guy said hold on one minute. Went to the back and when he returned he made us a cash offer of 18,900 for the truck.. 4,700 dollars in equity. 1,400 more than if I would have just settled for the first offer...

You may want to try and work this angle see what your bank will offer you, then find the best CASH trade in value for your car..... You may be thinking you may not get approved because your Debt to credit ratio may not be too great.
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