Roush05

That would be great. I would really appreciate it. And I do have access to a machine that I could use to cut my current pipe, but I wasn't sure how it mated up to the long tubes because they haven't arrived yet. That would save me a couple hundred bucks though for sure.



edit: What do I do about the O2 sensor location?

S197GT07

PM incoming with cell #

For the O2's you will need at least 2 extensions for the fronts. Since you got real longtubes, you will need to extend the front O2's to reach. I needed 4, but you could get away with 2. AM's site shows they come in the box, so I wouldn't worry.

Your tune will compensate for the distance difference of the front O2's. Since they are much further downstream, they take longer to heat up.

Roush05

I know there are 2 O2 sensors on each side. Are you saying I can get away with 2 total(1 on each side)? I am assuming the protrusion on the headers is for O2 sensors? I just noticed in some of the shorty h pipe pics, they had holes for O2 sensors like the link below. If that is the case, do I need to cut O2 sensor holes in my current h pipe?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/bbk-sh...t-offroad.html

ShinobiOfLegends

Roush05, where in ga are you?

Roush05

I am in Statesboro, but I have family in Woodstock. Why, what's up?

Roush05

Bumping with an update. I just bought Comp Cams Stage 2 127200 cams and Steeda UDPs. I am currently leaning towards putting all of them on and running a Bama tune. I want to get in touch with Eric and see if he thinks a dyno tune would net me much. If not, I will just do some dyno pulls over there.

S197GT07

I think we're over-complicating this. You need all 4 (2 front, which live in the header collectors, and 2 in the rear) O2's. I thought your question was retaining to how many O2 extenders you need. Your current H pipe should already have the O2 bungs in it, but if the part you cut off has them you will need new bungs.

Awesome. The way you do the install without the spring compressor is as follows:
Take out spark plugs, get to the point where you have valve covers off.
Rotate engine to 12:00 and verify with cam position on each side
Back the cam caps off slowly, and remove the 3 unloaded followers.
Re torque cam caps
rotate engine to 6:00
Now all the other followers are un-loaded, so you can just remove the caps and replace the cam.

All the spring compressor does is save you the trouble of backing the cam caps off, but it's not difficult and I've heard some people say the spring compressor makes it more difficult.

Feel free to give me a call if you're confused at all!

Roush05

Will do. I don't know most of the terminology, but once I figure out which piece corresponds to which name I should get it pretty easily.

Also, since I don't have to worry about emissions, if I have to drill new holes for the O2 sensors, could I just zip tie the back two out of the way and not worry about them?

S197GT07

You could, yes. I know some people that don't have emissions use one of the rear O2's for a wideband sensor.

Roush05

I'll have to see where my current O2 sensor holes on my midpipe are then.


I found a write up for the exact cams that I'm gonna be putting in:

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-write-up.html

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-page-2-a.html