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Tuning and RWHP/RWTQ Guesses?

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Old 05-14-2012, 03:49 PM   #1
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I have a lot of stuff going on to the car right now, and I am wondering if I should get a dyno tune. I have bama tunes already, so I am curious as to if a dyno tune from a good tuner would net me enough power to justify an extra $300-$400. Also, what do you guys think I can make with this setup? If everything goes perfectly, (it probably won't, but we'll see) I will have everything installed this week and be dynoed next week. My NA goal is 350 rwhp.

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You can get away with a bama tune for those mods, but to maximize the potential of all of those mods I'd get a dyno tune.
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Old 05-14-2012, 04:46 PM   #3
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That's halfway what I was expecting. I'll have to run the bama tune for a month or so while I save up for the dyno tune though.
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:29 PM   #4
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320-325 RWHP with a good AM tune, 330-335 with a really good dyno tune. I'd be all over the board with torque depending on the cams and the tune.
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What would I need to do to get to 350? CMDPs alone wouldn't do it, would they?
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What would I need to do to get to 350? CMDPs alone wouldn't do it, would they?
CMDP's won't and many peopple don't care for them. At this point, you're down to the nickle and dime mods; 5 RWHP here, 3 there...

Aluminum DS and lighter wheels will free-up a few more RWHP as will an electric water pump. With the cams, LT's and O/R X, you MAY see some gains with an aftermarket TB but beware; they can be a real pain getting them to function properly. Very few people reach the 350 RWHP mark without some additional internal work.
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I know of a couple places that I could get a gt500 TB and adapter for around $150. I want at least 340 RWHP but my goal for this car as a NA car is 350. Who knows, maybe my car is a freak and I'll be closer than I think with the mods I have now. lol.
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Do you have an aluminum driveshaft? That'll get you more of your hp to the wheels.
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No, not at the moment.
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Depends on the dyno type, and a lot of weather factors ect... As well.
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Yeah, but I was just talking ballpark. And I think eric has a dynojet. Say 70* and I don't know about humidity or pressure.
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Yeah, but I was just talking ballpark. And I think eric has a dynojet. Say 70* and I don't know about humidity or pressure.
Still depends on if the motor is heat soaked, ect...
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okay, captain buzzkill. let's assume good general conditions with no heatsoak.
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do a 25 shot of nitrous ... jk

how long before the parts get in?
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350 is a huge NA number. Don't be surprised if your current number is a lot lower than you think. All the mods left for you are either little hp adders and or expensive. Driveshaft is $600+ and some folks can never dial out the vibration. For what cams, long tubes and all that other stuff costs your really better off just getting a blower.

My guess 315 hp
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I wouldn't get a dyno tune, but if you don't have a wideband get it ON a dyno to check the A/F.
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do a 25 shot of nitrous ... jk

how long before the parts get in?
Headers are in now, cams and UDPs will be here by next monday according to the tracking. I was hoping for them to be here by today or tomorrow but they're in Missouri right now and I'm in Georgia. X pipe should be here tomorrow.
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350 is a huge NA number. Don't be surprised if your current number is a lot lower than you think. All the mods left for you are either little hp adders and or expensive. Driveshaft is $600+ and some folks can never dial out the vibration. For what cams, long tubes and all that other stuff costs your really better off just getting a blower.

My guess 315 hp
Well, most people that have dyno vids who are running the mods I have planned are making anywhere from high 330s to 353. If I am making that low, i'll probably take it all off and sell it and put it towards a blower. I am keeping a spreadsheet to keep track of mod money vs. school/life money and I have made about $1100 dollars so far for mods. I want an M90 badly, but the issue there is that I don't have a job and although I've applied to a few places, I don't know that I will have one. The money I've saved thus far has been from selling things that I don't need or don't use. I don't know how I would come up with the extra 2k or so that I need.
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I wouldn't get a dyno tune, but if you don't have a wideband get it ON a dyno to check the A/F.
At the very least, I was planning to do that.
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Don't make decisions based on dyno numbers. Take it to the track and your trap speed will tell you what you really make.

Obviously as its been said dyno's read all over the place, they are a tuning tool, not something to make decisions off of man!
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How can you not have a job? How is this possible? No I'm in school excuses either. I worked 5 nights a week as a waiter all through college myself. Get to work man. Lol
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I'm agreeing with most of these other people. Take it to the track and check those numbers! A lot cheaper and to me it says a lot more But, since you're going with the Dyno, dont guesstimate high, guesstimate LOW so when the actual number is higher, you'll be like F-YEAH BRO!
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