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For Those of You With Powder Coated Wheels. Are These OK Or Messed Up?

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Old 05-17-2012, 04:32 PM   #1
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Question For Those of You With Powder Coated Wheels. Are These OK Or Messed Up?

I had my stock wheels powder coated yesterday.
I understand that normally there is some pitting and imperfections but I want to see if my case is normal or if they are poorly done.
If it is normal and they just aren't PERFECT, I don't want to send them back.
But if they are poorly done that is another issue.

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Old 05-17-2012, 05:10 PM   #2
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Damn I love your car. Sorry I've never had anything powder coated, so I'm no expert but they don't look right.
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powder is a little thin in some spots and thick in others. Wheels are hard as hell to coat properly. Hard to say from pics whether they are bad enough to request a refinish. They look fine from 5 feet.
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LOL thanks Mongoose! And thanks Diabolical! for the input.

I think I'll take it to the place that did not powder coat them, but directed me to them to have them done. They will give me an honest opinion.
Oh another thing... what do I want to use to clean these with and what do I NOT want to use as far as wheel cleaners?

Also.. more opinions on the job are welcomed and encouraged!
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My plant refinishes wheels and your guy should re do them. It happens, and they should not hassle you, you have a legit complaint if you should decide to go that route.
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It's only one wheel that has this problem it seems.
Can I have the one wheel taken off or do they need all of them in order to get a match on the color and density etc?
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It's only one wheel that has this problem it seems.
Can I have the one wheel taken off or do they need all of them in order to get a match on the color and density etc?
Just the one
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Do you think the one in the first photo should be redone as well?
I cant tell but is that a bubble at the top?
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Yeah that wheels doesn't look very good. :/
They look great from a distance though!
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Looks great! I'd get it re-done. BTW, you need to let me drive it again.
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Yeah I was not going to do it but found some more flaws that I could not ignore.
The powder coating place was awesome about it and is going to redo them Monday.

They want me to inspect them myself before they are put back on the car because he said and I quote:

"We take pride in our work and want you to be COMPLETELY happy about the job we have done and want them to be perfect for you."

That impressed me quite a bit. Not that many places these days that not only don't bitch when they do something over, but take the time to make a positive opportunity out of an honest mistake. Great customer service reply!

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They want me to inspect them myself before they are put back on the car because he said and I quote:

"We take pride in our work and want you to be COMPLETELY happy about the job we have done and want them to be perfect for you."

That impressed me quite a bit. Not that many places these days that not only don't bitch when they do something over, but take the time to make a positive opportunity out of an honest mistake. Great customer service reply!
As a service provider in finishing or refinishing of metals, this is the same answer I would have given. Outstanding, that they provide that kind of service.
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They want me to inspect them myself before they are put back on the car because he said and I quote:

"We take pride in our work and want you to be COMPLETELY happy about the job we have done and want them to be perfect for you."

That impressed me quite a bit. Not that many places these days that not only don't bitch when they do something over, but take the time to make a positive opportunity out of an honest mistake. Great customer service reply!
Outstanding customer service! Make sure you pass on the name & contact info to everyone! Good suppliers are not always easy to find.

I have significant experience with powder-coating.
Powder-coating does have an orange-peel texture to the surface normally. The scale of the orange-peel is dependent on the temp when the powder activates.
Usually when the orange-peel scale is larger, the metal is thinner and activated earlier in the oven process. The areas where the scale is smaller, the powder activated later in the process due to a thicker metal section.
Does that make sense?

If you want a smoother or glossier finish you can specify a second coat. The wheels are coated & baked normally, then resprayed while still hot and re-baked. This makes a superior finish. I have never tried it on a matte-finish powder, so I have no idea what the result would be.

What powder did they use?
I always specified Urethane based powder on parts when possible. It has superior UV stability and wear capabilities. Epoxy to too hard & chips easily as well as not being UV stable.
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Can't say what kind of powder they used.
That orange peel texture you speak of is known as "pitting" correct?
Im ok with some of that, and it did have some of that. But.. the thing that bothered me
was not like that.
It was almost like their was dirt under the powder coating or something.

I might ask them what they think a second layer would do to the semi gloss black.
It isn't matte but it's def. not as a shiny coat as gloss.
I did not want to go with full gloss black because it is such a BITCH to keep clean.
Had them on my 06GT and you had to literally clean them EVERY day in order for them to look
remotely correct. AND it seemed the gloss showed every single little scratch that ANYTHING might cause.

Someone I know and some others from the shop I had them done at had theirs semi gloss and they made the same
remarks about the full gloss in black.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:27 AM   #16
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Powder coat job re done and it is FANTASTIC!

Will post pics later this weekend after a wash.
Next step...getting the new louvers painted then put on!
After that.. Shelby GT500 hood pins!

That will be all for the cosmetics!
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I think they could have done a better job. I've had 3 sets of wheels powdercoated, with a more complicated design then those wheels.. and they did not come out like that.
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My 1st set was done by someone who looked like he knew what he was doing. The end result had some areas looking somewhat like yours, but honestly, not as bad. They did end up peeling and getting worse as time went by.

Found a real pro outfit in Orange county and took them there. They stripped them to bare metal and it looks great now.
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