Vibration issues, before and after suspension/1 piece driveshaft/new rear end install
#11
6th Gear Member
Your vibration problem could be one or combinations of many of those things described above. You'll have to try to eliminate them one-by-one.
The RoadForce balance will identify tire and rim issues that a standard spin balance willnot and cannot pick up. It applies pressure to the tire (hence the Road Force) as if it was making contact as it does during use.
Also, if you're running aftermarket wheels, be sure the rotor clips have been removed, IF any of them still remain. They were for the assembly line only and have no further function.
The RoadForce balance will identify tire and rim issues that a standard spin balance willnot and cannot pick up. It applies pressure to the tire (hence the Road Force) as if it was making contact as it does during use.
Also, if you're running aftermarket wheels, be sure the rotor clips have been removed, IF any of them still remain. They were for the assembly line only and have no further function.
#12
What i have feels NOTHING like tire out of balance, it's not a wobbly shake your passenger seat kind of vibe. It's much higher frequency, imagine a bass box hitting a long low note, it's audible, its a resonance in the frame of the car VERY similar to exhaust drone only its not drone. It's a buzzing kind of vibe that blurs objects in the mirror. Imagine hitting rumble strips at high speed (only not quite as pronounced).
Here's my very similar thread I started when mine developed: https://mustangforums.com/forum/gt-s...ay-speeds.html
I'm only looking back into it as I decided the 4.10s are a bit much for me on the highway and the gears are a bit too short so I'm dropping back to 3.73. I'm secretly hoping it fixes my vibe problem too, but I'm not overly optimistic about it. Car goes in Wednesday where I should have took it for gears the first time. I'll be back with an update once I get it back. Wish me luck!
Tim
Here's my very similar thread I started when mine developed: https://mustangforums.com/forum/gt-s...ay-speeds.html
I'm only looking back into it as I decided the 4.10s are a bit much for me on the highway and the gears are a bit too short so I'm dropping back to 3.73. I'm secretly hoping it fixes my vibe problem too, but I'm not overly optimistic about it. Car goes in Wednesday where I should have took it for gears the first time. I'll be back with an update once I get it back. Wish me luck!
Tim
#13
What i have feels NOTHING like tire out of balance, it's not a wobbly shake your passenger seat kind of vibe. It's much higher frequency, imagine a bass box hitting a long low note, it's audible, its a resonance in the frame of the car VERY similar to exhaust drone only its not drone. It's a buzzing kind of vibe that blurs objects in the mirror. Imagine hitting rumble strips at high speed (only not quite as pronounced).
Here's my very similar thread I started when mine developed: https://mustangforums.com/forum/gt-s...ay-speeds.html
I'm only looking back into it as I decided the 4.10s are a bit much for me on the highway and the gears are a bit too short so I'm dropping back to 3.73. I'm secretly hoping it fixes my vibe problem too, but I'm not overly optimistic about it. Car goes in Wednesday where I should have took it for gears the first time. I'll be back with an update once I get it back. Wish me luck!
Tim
Here's my very similar thread I started when mine developed: https://mustangforums.com/forum/gt-s...ay-speeds.html
I'm only looking back into it as I decided the 4.10s are a bit much for me on the highway and the gears are a bit too short so I'm dropping back to 3.73. I'm secretly hoping it fixes my vibe problem too, but I'm not overly optimistic about it. Car goes in Wednesday where I should have took it for gears the first time. I'll be back with an update once I get it back. Wish me luck!
Tim
#14
So I called my shop today to see if all the parts had come in for my appointment this week. The guy at the shop told me the “GT500 bearing kit” had not come in yet but should arrive tomorrow. I was thinking why the heck do I need a GT500 bearing kit and is it even any different? I got home an Googled it… and almost fell out of my chair.
http://www.lethalperformance.com/for...stall-kit.html
Made specifically for the 2010-2013 Shelby GT500 this ring and pinion install kit is the answer many have been waiting for. The GT500 uses a different pinion bearing than the Mustang GT. Since the GT500 pinion bearing itself can't be ordered through Ford many have had to stick with the standard bearing which come to find out was the cause of vibration in the rear end after a gear swap.
So as I had a dealer do the install they very likely used the stock GT pinion, which in turn would explain why they could never identify the source of the vibration! I'll let you know how it turns out later this week or this weekend.
Tim
http://www.lethalperformance.com/for...stall-kit.html
Made specifically for the 2010-2013 Shelby GT500 this ring and pinion install kit is the answer many have been waiting for. The GT500 uses a different pinion bearing than the Mustang GT. Since the GT500 pinion bearing itself can't be ordered through Ford many have had to stick with the standard bearing which come to find out was the cause of vibration in the rear end after a gear swap.
So as I had a dealer do the install they very likely used the stock GT pinion, which in turn would explain why they could never identify the source of the vibration! I'll let you know how it turns out later this week or this weekend.
Tim
#15
I wonder if that is included with the rear end in my car? I have this http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-s...mbly-0512.html
I had the vibration before AND after that thing was installed.
This is such a pain in the ***, theres so many things it could be. Heres a little writeup about symptoms of bad control arms
http://www.ehow.com/how_8054093_cont...placement.html
"Test drive the car on the freeway. Torn and worn out control arms or bent control arms will cause a car's steering to vibrate. This is a symptom that will become exacerbated the higher the speeds are and may become very noticeable at freeway speeds. Other potential causes of this symptom can be a bad alignment, bent wheels or unevenly worn tires."
I had the vibration before AND after that thing was installed.
This is such a pain in the ***, theres so many things it could be. Heres a little writeup about symptoms of bad control arms
http://www.ehow.com/how_8054093_cont...placement.html
"Test drive the car on the freeway. Torn and worn out control arms or bent control arms will cause a car's steering to vibrate. This is a symptom that will become exacerbated the higher the speeds are and may become very noticeable at freeway speeds. Other potential causes of this symptom can be a bad alignment, bent wheels or unevenly worn tires."
Last edited by 05slpGT; 08-08-2012 at 11:29 AM.
#16
Yes that rear end should have the bearing (reads heavy duty bearings), so in your case at least that's probably not the issue.
It is pretty amazing how no one seems to be able to fix these things, you assume anything can be fixed now a days with computers/tools available.
Again I'm not getting my hopes up, the vibe is not the reason for the gear change but if it goes away I'll be thrilled.
If it doesn't fix it we shall journey on together until one of us figures it out. I find out tomorrow, wish me luck!
Tim
It is pretty amazing how no one seems to be able to fix these things, you assume anything can be fixed now a days with computers/tools available.
Again I'm not getting my hopes up, the vibe is not the reason for the gear change but if it goes away I'll be thrilled.
If it doesn't fix it we shall journey on together until one of us figures it out. I find out tomorrow, wish me luck!
Tim
#17
What i have feels NOTHING like tire out of balance, it's not a wobbly shake your passenger seat kind of vibe. It's much higher frequency, imagine a bass box hitting a long low note, it's audible, its a resonance in the frame of the car VERY similar to exhaust drone only its not drone. It's a buzzing kind of vibe that blurs objects in the mirror. Imagine hitting rumble strips at high speed (only not quite as pronounced).
Here's my very similar thread I started when mine developed: https://mustangforums.com/forum/gt-s...ay-speeds.html
I'm only looking back into it as I decided the 4.10s are a bit much for me on the highway and the gears are a bit too short so I'm dropping back to 3.73. I'm secretly hoping it fixes my vibe problem too, but I'm not overly optimistic about it. Car goes in Wednesday where I should have took it for gears the first time. I'll be back with an update once I get it back. Wish me luck!
Tim
Here's my very similar thread I started when mine developed: https://mustangforums.com/forum/gt-s...ay-speeds.html
I'm only looking back into it as I decided the 4.10s are a bit much for me on the highway and the gears are a bit too short so I'm dropping back to 3.73. I'm secretly hoping it fixes my vibe problem too, but I'm not overly optimistic about it. Car goes in Wednesday where I should have took it for gears the first time. I'll be back with an update once I get it back. Wish me luck!
Tim
If I were a dealer and someone brought a lowered vehicle in complaining about vibrations, I'd tell them to go pound sand as far as warranty goes. Put the stock springs back in, then I'll waste my time with it.
Last edited by moosestang; 08-08-2012 at 09:06 PM.
#18
Did you every turn the driveshaft 180 degrees or adjust the pinion angle yourself? Grab a couple of wrenches, crawl under there and change the angle. There is no correct pinion angle imo, there is just what works best for you. With the stock driveshaft or any shaft with a cv joint at the pinion flange, you can set it to almost any angle without causing any harm.
If I were a dealer and someone brought a lowered vehicle in complaining about vibrations, I'd tell them to go pound sand as far as warranty goes. Put the stock springs back in, then I'll waste my time with it.
If I were a dealer and someone brought a lowered vehicle in complaining about vibrations, I'd tell them to go pound sand as far as warranty goes. Put the stock springs back in, then I'll waste my time with it.
05slpGT have you tried various pinion angles to see if you could make it any better/worse?
And moosestang thanks for the tip!
Tim