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Old 08-18-2012, 01:52 PM   #1
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So I try to start the stang today and it doesnt start... the first thing i notice when i pull the ignition is the radio turns on to a some station I never heard and the clock reads 12:00 like everything reset. Also car just makes a loud clicking sound?

is the battery dead cuz the radio is able to turn on.... but the car doesnt... just loud clicking sound...


Will a jump start work? or does it need a new battery? or new starter? im stumped
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:53 PM   #2
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What year is your car? Have you ever replaced your battery in the past?

I'm going to guess your battery is just dead.
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:54 PM   #3
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07 and i honestly dont remember replacing it.

i guess it lived its 5 year span?
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:25 PM   #4
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i tried a jump start and it didnt work. i just get a clicking sound when i flip the ignition.

ill be getting it checked out by a tech, but im thinking new battery or starter

hoping its not a drivetrain thing

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Old 08-18-2012, 02:41 PM   #5
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i tried a jump start and it didnt work. i just get a clicking sound when i flip the ignition.

ill be getting it checked out by a tech, but im thinking new battery or starter

hoping its not a drivetrain thing
B/4 getting to technical I would replace the batty . If it's 5yrs old its money well spent . Not too much can happen to a car in its sleep .
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:50 PM   #6
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B/4 getting to technical I would replace the batty . If it's 5yrs old its money well spent . Not too much can happen to a car in its sleep .
yea I just drove it last night (midnight) and it was working perfect.... It has to be the battery or aybe the starter.

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Old 08-18-2012, 02:54 PM   #7
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Check your battery terminals, wires, and starter terminals. If a jump start didn't change anything I would be inclined to say you either did something wrong or there is a short between the battery and starter.

Btw checking your wires involves a multimeter if you didn't know that already.

If you did everything right and it still just clicks, you might have a seized starter.

Hit it with a hammer a couple times...
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:06 PM   #8
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the loud clicking makes me lean towards starter. its all i hear when i flip the ignition... ill be checking the wires and evrything
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:09 PM   #9
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The stock batteries and alternators are marginal at best. If the battery is gone, have the alternator load tested too. One often will take out the other on these S197's. I'll bet $$ it's the charging system. The starters are comparatively a hefty design.
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The stock batteries and alternators are marginal at best. If the battery is gone, have the alternator load tested too. One often will take out the other on these S197's. I'll bet $$ it's the charging system. The starters are comparatively a hefty design.
Based on the radio issues, I absolutely believe he has a problem in that department as well but, would his car not start and run while jumped? If it's the battery it should start and run till he kills it. If it's the alternator it should start and run while still connected. If it's both he should get the same thing.

I'm not trying to argue I more just want to know why you think otherwise for my own knowledge.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:49 PM   #11
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its possible i didnt jump start it correctly. ill try again later.
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:06 PM   #12
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Im with Nuke. Original battery has probably kicked the bucket.

A bad starter isnt going to mess up a radio ever.

Symptoms are indicative of not enough power to keep the settings in the head unit alive. Granted that a jump should start the car, but if it doesnt, I'd just replace that battery since it's already 5 years old (actually 6 since 07 model year came out in 2006) and then have the alternator tested just to be sure. I have had batteries that even with a jump, they wouldnt start the car. Voila, change the battery, and you're golden.
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its possible i didnt jump start it correctly. ill try again later.
If you've got the circuit completed correctly, you should hear once youve attached the last cable a slight variation in the donor vehicles' RPM as it tries to make up for the drain. Let it sit for a little bit (I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes) before you try to crank your car. Sometimes there's enough to do it instantly and sometimes it needs to charge the bad battery a little bit first.

The sound you hear from the starter is very very likely not enough power for it to actually turn the flywheel to get things rotating. Every starter I've had go bad it sounds like a very fast wind up toy almost. Fast clicking is not enough juice to get it to turn the flywheel.

Except one time when the flywheel was just worn on a pickup I had. That was a bad day.
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If you've got the circuit completed correctly, you should hear once youve attached the last cable a slight variation in the donor vehicles' RPM as it tries to make up for the drain. Let it sit for a little bit (I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes) before you try to crank your car. Sometimes there's enough to do it instantly and sometimes it needs to charge the bad battery a little bit first.

The sound you hear from the starter is very very likely not enough power for it to actually turn the flywheel to get things rotating. Every starter I've had go bad it sounds like a very fast wind up toy almost. Fast clicking is not enough juice to get it to turn the flywheel.

Except one time when the flywheel was just worn on a pickup I had. That was a bad day.
Aha! see I was assuming he meant he heard one clunk as he turned the key. ie. a seized starter motor. If its constant clicking like a slow taser then yes, everyone else here is probably spot on.
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If you've got the circuit completed correctly, you should hear once youve attached the last cable a slight variation in the donor vehicles' RPM as it tries to make up for the drain. Let it sit for a little bit (I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes) before you try to crank your car. Sometimes there's enough to do it instantly and sometimes it needs to charge the bad battery a little bit first.
+1 This was not generally true many years ago, but with today's batteries, that's exactly right.
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If the radio & clock reset, then its an electrical problem and NOT the starter. I'm with Nuke, its probably a bad battery. If the battery can't keep the clock & radio settings, its not going to turn over the engine, even if its jumped.

The problem with replacing the battery after its completely gone is, it puts an extra load on the alternator before it goes, leading to reduced alternator life.

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If you've got the circuit completed correctly, you should hear once youve attached the last cable a slight variation in the donor vehicles' RPM as it tries to make up for the drain. Let it sit for a little bit (I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes) before you try to crank your car. Sometimes there's enough to do it instantly and sometimes it needs to charge the bad battery a little bit first.

The sound you hear from the starter is very very likely not enough power for it to actually turn the flywheel to get things rotating. Every starter I've had go bad it sounds like a very fast wind up toy almost. Fast clicking is not enough juice to get it to turn the flywheel.

Except one time when the flywheel was just worn on a pickup I had. That was a bad day.
yea it sounded like a wind up toy kind of! perfectly described. Ill do this as soon as i can.
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Jumpering the car isn't rocket science. The alternator maintains the battery, it doesn't recharge it per say, hence battery failures. You drove the car last night with the headlights on, got home (luckily), the next morning the clock & radio reset, and the car wouldn't start. 99% its a bad battery.
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Jumpering the car isn't rocket science. The alternator maintains the battery, it doesn't recharge it per say, hence battery failures. You drove the car last night with the headlights on, got home (luckily), the next morning the clock & radio reset, and the car wouldn't start. 99% its a bad battery.
so what youre saying is you believe a jump start probably wouldnt do anything since the battery is toast?
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Exactly, once a battery is toast, jumping the car won't work.
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