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mustang_gt808 04-17-2013 07:21 PM

4.10s not good for daily driving?
 
so i called american muscle to order 4.10s and they told me its not good for a daily driver car??? also late model restoration said if i go with 3.73 gears and if i have 3.55s now its not worth the buy to 3.73?? I'm confused i have a 2005 mustang gt 5 speed what is my gear ratio??

bigmike06gt 04-17-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mustang_gt808 (Post 8195661)
so i called american muscle to order 4.10s and they told me its not good for a daily driver car??? also late model restoration said if i go with 3.73 gears and if i have 3.55s now its not worth the buy to 3.73?? I'm confused i have a 2005 mustang gt 5 speed what is my gear ratio??

I daily drive my Mustang in the summer with 4:10's and have no issues. Barely noticed any difference in fuel mileage and it is way more fun on the streets.

mustang_gt808 04-17-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bigmike06gt (Post 8195667)
I daily drive my Mustang in the summer with 4:10's and have no issues. Barely noticed any difference in fuel mileage and it is way more fun on the streets.

Do you know if I have to call bama and write me another tune for installing new gears?

Ricardo 04-17-2013 07:36 PM

They're fine. I drove from Texas to Utah in my car. If youre on the island then you'll absolutely love them. Here in Utah, the canyons and mountains are a blast with 4.10s. Much better control over engine speed when driving too!

Just make sure you have the gears adjusted in the tune. If you have the tuner just hook it up to the car and adjust the tune, don't have to have Bama do it.

07BLACKGT 04-17-2013 07:44 PM

**** that ****, go 4.10

mustang_gt808 04-17-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricardo (Post 8195673)
They're fine. I drove from Texas to Utah in my car. If youre on the island then you'll absolutely love them. Here in Utah, the canyons and mountains are a blast with 4.10s. Much better control over engine speed when driving too!

Just make sure you have the gears adjusted in the tune. If you have the tuner just hook it up to the car and adjust the tune, don't have to have Bama do it.

Ya man my average mph speed limit is 55 mph I want the gears bad now I had 3.73 on my 03 mustang gt before it made a whole lot of difference! I hope the 4.10s is gonna make my car feel like its on roids lol

Mpaint99 04-17-2013 08:13 PM

410 gears dont require a new tune. Just plug in your tuner and go to parameters, arrow down to gears, enter 410. That simple. It will calibrate your speedo also. Make sure your tire size is entered also.

07 GT E UPP 04-18-2013 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mustang_gt808 (Post 8195661)
so i called american muscle to order 4.10s and they told me its not good for a daily driver car??? also late model restoration said if i go with 3.73 gears and if i have 3.55s now its not worth the buy to 3.73?? I'm confused i have a 2005 mustang gt 5 speed what is my gear ratio??

Sorry, I don't agree with American Muscle's statement. I put 4:10's in my '07 daily driver (was 3:55 ) at day one and don't regret it for a minute. Your '05 on the highway will only be at about 2450 rpm's in 5th gear at 70 mph. And, in the City, well.... just hold on.. lol !! You will see shortly that tons of guys here will also support 4:10's...saying , "don't fear the gear !!

mayo 04-18-2013 07:14 AM

Much of these statements will be preference and opinion, but here's a fact...if you currently have 3.55's, upgrading to 3.73's is a waste of money as you will barely notice it.
Advantage 4.10!

moosestang 04-18-2013 08:07 AM

you have 3.55's. I have 4.10's and a whipple supercharger and my average speed is probably 45-55mph. I got 17.6 mpg my last tank of gas. I'm not a hyper-miler either. I practice my launch at every stop light.

I wouldn't say 4.10's are bad for a daily driver. The difference between 3.55's and 4.10's is very noticeable. If you think you might supercharge the car, then I'd say wait till after the supercharger.

Norm Peterson 04-18-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mustang_gt808 (Post 8195661)
so i called american muscle to order 4.10s and they told me its not good for a daily driver car???

If it matters any, you'll probably end up doing more shifting with 4.10's, and you'll be shifting out of 1st before you clear the intersection coming off a traffic light or STOP sign. 5th will be somewhat more responsive and hence more useful, 1st a lot less so (and going WOT in it may become just an idle daydream). Around town mpg shouldn't change much, steady-speed highway mpg may drop a little. That 55 mph will probably help hold the amount of mpg loss to a minimum. You'd be geared very close to where I was in another car with shorter tires, 3.73's, and daily driven.

3.73's aren't enough different from the 3.55's that you should have to be worth changing to unless you have some unusual requirement for reaching a certain speed in a particular gear. It's only 5% different, and clearly noticeable change in lots of car performance stuff happens when the changes are at least 10%.

"Don't fear the gear" is not a reason. Just pressure from others to blindly choose without thinking.


Norm

AMDanBailer 04-18-2013 09:58 AM

I would definitely recommend 4.10 gears if you don't do a ton of highway driving! The reason the rep didn't suggest them for daily driving is because they can be pretty aggressive. Your RPM's are going to rev a lot faster and you'll be at a higher RPM when cruising!

I wouldn't fear the gear. I daily drive my 2011 GT with 4.10's and I love it! Let me know if you have any questions or need some assistance in the near future.

-Dan

07BLACKGT 04-18-2013 11:29 AM

I love 4.10's around town because my auto trans can climb hills in 5th without downshifting, etc. I literally don't have to downshift to pass, ever.

Also if you line up with pretty much anyone at a stoplight, they are gonna have a bad time if they aren't awd. The car rips out of the hole. Top end is meh, but I will race anything 0-60 because of these gears, sticky tires, and auto.

mustang_gt808 04-18-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AMDanBailer (Post 8195999)
I would definitely recommend 4.10 gears if you don't do a ton of highway driving! The reason the rep didn't suggest them for daily driving is because they can be pretty aggressive. Your RPM's are going to rev a lot faster and you'll be at a higher RPM when cruising!

I wouldn't fear the gear. I daily drive my 2011 GT with 4.10's and I love it! Let me know if you have any questions or need some assistance in the near future.

-Dan

Thank you I will get the 4:10s I can't wait

mustang_gt808 04-18-2013 03:26 PM

Thank you everyone who helped me with all my questions!!!

157dB 04-18-2013 03:44 PM

3.73s will make 5th gear look like fourth gear with 3.31s.

Slowpoek06GT 04-18-2013 07:27 PM

Before this thread wraps up, I gotta know.. If I pay AM to send me these 410s, am I not going to pay 3-4x that to have installed? I'm the guy that will do a lot of my own BO installs, but not rear gears.. What should I expect from a tranny shop in $?

jRaskell 04-18-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowpoek06GT (Post 8196415)
Before this thread wraps up, I gotta know.. If I pay AM to send me these 410s, am I not going to pay 3-4x that to have installed? I'm the guy that will do a lot of my own BO installs, but not rear gears.. What should I expect from a tranny shop in $?

Much more than 300 for a gear install and you're paying too much.

Slowpoek06GT 04-18-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jRaskell (Post 8196488)
Much more than 300 for a gear install and you're paying too much.

Good to know-- is this something that I'm handcuffed on? In other words, can I take it to a decent shop or do I need the best (highest price)?

bronxbomba63 04-18-2013 09:19 PM

Yeah, if I remember right, I think I paid about $350 for my gear install. Around town they were great, but for some of the highway driving I did...not so much. Still loved them though!


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