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Old 04-24-2013, 02:30 PM   #1
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I have gotten a request to start a thread about the B326 install I had done a couple weeks ago, so here it is:

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The whole experience was great, took a whole week, drove out to Indiana and I stayed in Brenspeed's guesthouse for free. Dropped the car off on Monday and the K-member, motor and all, was out by the end of the day. Tuesday was parts swap day, Wednesday she was running, Thursday was break-in day, and Friday she was on the dyno getting tuned.

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Had one big hitch at 4:00 Friday afternoon on the dyno when she spun the alternator pulley off (I had installed it with blue locktite 3 yrs ago when I installed the E-Force myself). Luckily the alternator was still good (my 2009 has a 2010 150 amp alternator, as we found out, and nobody anywhere had any in stock), thankfully the pulley did not go through the front cover, and Brent called Edelbrock for a new alternator pulley. Edelbrock promised it would be there first thing Saturday morning. They did not lie, the UPS guy was at the shop at 8:00am Saturday. With the alternator all cleaned up and pulley RED loctited on, Brent did some dyno power runs Saturday morning. Highest hp was 558 and highest torque was 570. Around 12:30pm on Saturday I started my journey back to RI. Got a consistent 21 mpg on the way back.


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The engine now consists of:
·Brenspeed B326 Shortblock – 9.8:1 Compression
· SVT BOSS 5.0 Cleveland Iron Block – 3.700 bore
· CP Forged Pistons & Rings
· Manley Stroker Connecting Rods w/ARP 2000 Bolts
· Kellogg Forged 3.800 Stroke Crankshaft
· 2013 GT500 Oil Pump
· ATI Super Damper
·FRPP Stage 1 CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
· Comp Cams Beehive Valve Springs/Retainers
·Brenspeed Detroit Rocker Blower Grind Cams - .450 Lift
·Edelbrock E-Force TVS Supercharger/2.75” Pulley (14-15 PSI)
· 2013 GT500 Intercooler Pump
· AFCO Heat Exchanger w/ Dual 10” Spal Fans
· Brenspeed Dyno Tuned (street) – 93 Octane

Could have gotten even bigger numbers with Stage 3 heads, bigger cams and bigger injectors, but since this is my daily driver, we went conservative to preserve driveability.

The Torque is simply unbelievable, even when not in boost. The torque comes in low, right around 2k rpm, which is perfect when cruising (even in OD) and you need to pass a slowpoke or something. You do not even need to downshift or kick it down. It just pulls like a freight train.

Under boost, it is scary fast. She will break the tires loose at any speed. I really need some MT's.

Ryan did the vast majority of work on the car and it is all top notch. His attention to detail was fantastic, even down to replacing an iffy petcock on my AFCO radiator.

Kudo's to Brent and all the gang at Brenspeed. I would not hesitate to take my stang out to them again
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:36 PM   #2
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Anyone else have problems seeing the pictures? Dont show for me.

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Thanks also why is Brenspeed so good? I hear alot of talk about them but dont know why. Are they the go to place for forged blocks or what?

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Years ago I started with a tuner and a Brenspeed 93 octane tune. Tried others but they did not compare to that tune. Soon found out that Brent will not sell you anything that you don't need or that doesn't work for your application. They race what they sell. Over the years, customer service was always excellent too.

Sure, there are other places out there with stroker engines that may be just as good, but I trust these guys and I have been a satisfied customer for a few years now.
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What he said and what was the total cost?
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Also, it helps that Brenspeed does nothing but late model Mustangs and F150's. They know them like the back of their hand.
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Congrats!!! I was there doing the same thing last fall. Their customer service, attention to detail, and passion for their work is outstanding. Everyone that works there is extremely professional. It was like mini vacation too. I can't say enough about Brent and his crew. My Brother was able to meet me there half way through the build, and we had a great time. It was my second visit out there from N.C.

I just ordered a pair of BMR lower control arm relocation brackets from them yesterday so I can get better traction. I'm running Nitto NT 05's, and they still spin easily.

I'm glad you had a great experience, and definitely enjoy your new found power!!!
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I always refer people to brenspeed bc of what u guys have said. They do fantastic work
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I am curious what that B326 block ran you. I plan on doing FI this year and next year forging the bottom end to put bigger boost on the car. I plan on using the KB 2.3L S/C for the interchangability but I am really eyeing that B326 block... If you don't want to put it out in the open PM me, thanks!
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Side note, where at in RI are you? I'm from Newport (born and raised) but now live in MD... I'll actually be heading up for a week around memorial day holiday (the big .gov approved my leave for that holiday!)
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Congrats man...!!
My B326 Stroker is just in and waiting for a dyno.
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On their website. Just the short block is $5,000. Kind of pricy.
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Back in the '80's we used to race late models (asphalt circle track). I had a couple $12k 358 sbc's that didn't make the power that this does.

If the 326 is too much dollar-wise, Brenspeed also sells the internals for a forged 302 - all the good stuff, Kellogg crank, CP Pistons (made by Carillo - ever heard of Carillo rods? Some of the best made), Manley rods. But then you are looking at a lot of machine work and assembly cost.

Pretty much anyway you cut it, a forged short block isn't cheap, no matter where you get it.
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I have been looking around and gathering info on them along with reputation of the source. Not putting down Brenspeed in any way. However JDM Eng and MMR performance sell forged short blocks with all top of the line stuff. JDM is about $4200 and MMR is $3300. All im saying is $5000 for a short block is pricy compaired to others out there that have just as good a track record.
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I have been looking around and gathering info on them along with reputation of the source. Not putting down Brenspeed in any way. However JDM Eng and MMR performance sell forged short blocks with all top of the line stuff. JDM is about $4200 and MMR is $3300. All im saying is $5000 for a short block is pricy compaired to others out there that have just as good a track record.
MMR does not have a good reputation, sorry. JDM has had their problems in the past as well. DSS racing is another builder and they aren't without engine failures either.
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Every engine builder has had problems. Its all in the perception and how a few people post crap about them. MMR from whatvi have found has made good stuff. JDM IMHO is the best on the east coast. I have beat the snot out of my setup which they built. NO ISSUES. People should not state negitive crap unless they have facts not what they read on the internet. I go by people who had personal experance with a builder or tuner. Not he said she said.

What experance bad or good have you had with MMR , JDM or Brenspeed for that matter?

My point with my post was not putting down Brenspeed just that they are pricy and other alternatives are out there that are just as reliable / durable.
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Compare apples to apples when talking price. The JDM & MMR prices cited are not for326cid strokers built with new Boss 5.0 blocks. MMR has the option for that but it costs $1200 extra. Also, to have the same quality internal parts as the B326 it costs extra.

Once you compare like to like, the prices are pretty much the same.
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Every engine builder has had problems. Its all in the perception and how a few people post crap about them. MMR from whatvi have found has made good stuff. JDM IMHO is the best on the east coast. I have beat the snot out of my setup which they built. NO ISSUES. People should not state negitive crap unless they have facts not what they read on the internet. I go by people who had personal experance with a builder or tuner. Not he said she said.

What experance bad or good have you had with MMR , JDM or Brenspeed for that matter?

My point with my post was not putting down Brenspeed just that they are pricy and other alternatives are out there that are just as reliable / durable.
I've never bought from jdm, but I've read plenty of posts by them and I don't like their attitude towards customers with problems.

MMR, what can I say, they have so many negative stories that it's staggering. I'm surprised they are still in business. Are all the failures their fault? It really doesn't matter to me, because i'd never buy an engine from them to save a few grand.
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I did not mean to start a big debate about which engine builder is best. Just sharing my experience, which was great. Like I said, there may be other short blocks out there that may be just as good and/or cheaper. I have nothing against JDM, they build some good stuff and I have dealt with them before (and they are alot closer to me) - but there is no replacement for displacement, which is why I went with a 326.

I am totally satisfied with the B326 build, just as I have always been with everything I have gotten from Brenspeed. This was the first time I ever had them install anything, as I usually do it myself. But when it came down to installing basically a whole brand new engine, I just don't have the facilities anymore to do it (plus this is my daily driver and I can't have it down too long). Great customer service is rare these days, and Brenspeed has always delivered for me.
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