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Old 05-09-2013, 10:42 AM
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Question 600 Horsepower on Motor. Is it possible?

Here is my plan:
-Cold Air Intake
-85mm Throttle Body
-Cobra Jet Intake Manifold
-Shorty Headers
-Off road x pipe
-Axle back exhaust (For a whopping 2 horsepower)
-Adjustable 290 degree Boss 302 Cams
-Ported Boss 302 Heads
-Maybe some higher compression pistons with forged conrods and "sugar coated" heads

So I did some math and everything listed together WITHOUT LABOR was about 4-5 grand. The supercharger WITHOUT LABOR is anywhere from 5-10 grand. The only beauty in staying naturally aspirated (for me) is that I can do each of the things on the list a little at a time, where as a supercharger is generally a lump sum. I'd like to see 600 without reliability or driveability taking too much of a hit, but I realize that some hit is inevitable. What do you guys think? Any input is appreciated if there is something I'm missing.

Thanks in advance
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P.S. Does anyone perhaps know of somebody running 600ish horsepower on a naturally aspirated coyote? Could you point me in their direction?
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:01 AM
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Reliability/driveability is probably better with the supercharger. You only need a small amount of tools and no training to install one. I don't think you'll see 600rwhp out of a naturally aspirated 5.0L motor.

What blower is 10 grand? must be gold plated.
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Pretty sure the kenne bell 3.6 is in the tenish range. it's so much money all at once to Supercharge though
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:52 AM
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Pretty sure the kenne bell 3.6 is in the tenish range. it's so much money all at once to Supercharge though
You don't need a 3.6L blower. Unless you are going to build the motor, I don't see the point in adding a blower that big. A 2.3 is all you need for 600rwhp.

If you think $6,000 is so much money all at once, then you need to take a good hard look at your finances. Did you put any cash down on your car?

Everyone wants a supercharger, but if you can't afford it, then don't. I think i had $20k in my savings when I spent $5800 on my whipple HO, so don't spend your last penny on a blower.
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I am a college student, money isn't exactly coming out of my ears right now. That was the beauty of "a little bit at a time"
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Originally Posted by Sterling302
Here is my plan:
-Cold Air Intake
-85mm Throttle Body
-Cobra Jet Intake Manifold
-Shorty Headers
-Off road x pipe
-Axle back exhaust (For a whopping 2 horsepower)
-Adjustable 290 degree Boss 302 Cams
-Ported Boss 302 Heads
-Maybe some higher compression pistons with forged conrods and "sugar coated" heads

So I did some math and everything listed together WITHOUT LABOR was about 4-5 grand. The supercharger WITHOUT LABOR is anywhere from 5-10 grand. The only beauty in staying naturally aspirated (for me) is that I can do each of the things on the list a little at a time, where as a supercharger is generally a lump sum. I'd like to see 600 without reliability or driveability taking too much of a hit, but I realize that some hit is inevitable. What do you guys think? Any input is appreciated if there is something I'm missing.

Thanks in advance
Ant

P.S. Does anyone perhaps know of somebody running 600ish horsepower on a naturally aspirated coyote? Could you point me in their direction?
JPC has made 550 rwhp, I don't believe 600hp at the crank, will be made without stroking, so there goes a $5,000 budget.

http://blogs.musclemustangfastfords....ed-coyote-50l/

Here's a MM&FF article.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...yote_bolt_ons/
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Well, then I guess I'll aim for about 500 before forced induction. Thanks guys
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Yeah, don't take that savings advice as patronizing, but it's right. Can you drive your car at it's (and your) limits right now?

600 Horsepower being naturally aspirated will mean pretty aggressive cams and a lumpy idle, the torque curve would be different too.

I went with just a V6 (my ego regrets that, but it's manual and RWD so I'm happy) and am learning different things about RWD every time I drive it. I'm looking to go autocrossing it because I haven't spun the car round or drifted it on public roads.

However, what do you have in mind with that 600hp? Or is it more a "I want a 600hp Mustang" than "I want it to do a, b or c"?
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buy a 1000cc bike..u want performance? your stang will feel like a moped once you've had bikes
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I drag race every weekend and I thought 6 would be the edge of the realm of naturally aspirated possibility. I would like to see how it handles in a track, but I don't know the first thing about track racing etiquette.
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