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Cheapest, safest, reliable way to lower my car?

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Old 05-12-2013, 10:26 AM   #1
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Hey;

So next plan is to lower my mustang, it looks like a 4x4. I asked a few people and i keep hearing different things, some say, you just need lowering springs, but others say that if i just get lowering springs, the wheels will cave in and will also wear my tires in no time.

one of my friends say, the only way to do it is to go all out and buy the $800 to $1500 kit and have it installed. I do not want to spend that kind of money.

What if i just get the lowering springs, Americanmuscle got good ones with good reviews, what else would i need? do i need the chamber plates? and how would i go about lowering it without the wheels caving in. Excuse my stupid questions, i know pretty much nothing about lowering vehicles.

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Old 05-12-2013, 10:47 AM   #2
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:17 AM   #4
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FRPP 1" lowering springs. Eventually you'll want to upgrade the struts because it'll bounce on every single bump and that's not safe at all if you're going fast through a turn.
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:21 AM   #5
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If you go 2" then defiantly get spring kit & castor/camber plates.

You can lower the car 1"-1.5" w/o adding caster/camber plates but will have some negative wear on the front tires. If you rotate often then its not really a prob.

If you have a staggered setup where you cant rotate tires then you need the CC plates. I have the plates but havent installed them yet. The correct way is to get a good kit like Eibach AND caster/camber plate and have it re-aligned.

If you want really cheap then just cut out 1/2 or 1 full coil out of springs. If you dont like that then spend the cash on the parts.
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:27 AM   #6
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I have the srbperformance springs from american muscle that go for 160$ and have had no tire issues at all, just get an alignment once installed
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I have the srbperformance springs from american muscle that go for 160$ and have had no tire issues at all, just get an alignment once installed
did you install anything else or just the springs? how does it ride? and why would someone say that the tires would cave in if i just do lowering springs? I am also not trying to go too low, 1.5 is good enough
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did you install anything else or just the springs? how does it ride? and why would someone say that the tires would cave in if i just do lowering springs? I am also not trying to go too low, 1.5 is good enough
Because they know not what they speak of. Dont take ANY advice from that person. Especially if they say "wheels will cave in". doh.

Lowering was my first mod and have gone thru MANY sets of tires. Still havent found out why the rears wear so much more quickly. By the time I noticed any wear on shoulders of front tires the rears were already smooth across the whole tire.

Personally I think that if your tires get a chance to wear badly or get weather cracked or other age related issues that YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG and prob should be driving a Prius.
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Old 05-12-2013, 12:16 PM   #9
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I appreciate the replies, i think the best thing for me to do is stop by the local Performance shop ( luckily i have one 20 minutes away from my house) and have them look at it and tell me how much it costs to lower it the proper way. I am pretty sure i will be looking at a $1500 bill at least
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I had big O tires install my springs lowered it 1" up front and 2" on the back had to add c.c. Plates in front to angle it right. Drove lowered for 4yrs but now ive had to buy some tekico D specs shocks because the ride is very bumpy especially if you hit a bump doing 80mph fills like your flying.
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Ford racing K springs and eibach camber bolts, that's all I used for years. It will ride/handle better with lca relocation brackets and shocks/struts designed for lowering springs.
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Basically, you can just buy some lowering springs (I have the Ford Racing K Springs) for the look and be ok; HOWEVER, for ride quality and handling purposes you should upgrade your shocks and struts. I have the Ford Racing Shocks and Struts and do just fine.
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Camber bolts $25.00, Camber plates $300.00. Are you going to have your personal mechanic adjust them for every track condition change? No - so C-Bolts are fine and cheap. But saving your money and doing install all at once it cheaper and get matching stuff. Eibach Springs Struts/Shocks and Sway-bars are made to work together.
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Cam Bolts $25.00 are you going to adjust your front end from track to road -no- so don't get Cam Plates $300 + install. Unless you got a pit crew and personal alignment station.

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I need some staggered wheels, Laguna Seca Charcoal with Nitto Invo 555 9/10x255/285x40/35x19 would be nice. I've gutted everything and modded all that could be BMR and Eibach everything.

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As long as you are not going to low with your drop ... then you can get away with some minor upgrades that will aid in your car being lowered.

Springs – You can use just the springs, the panhard bar is advised the recenter the rear under the car, it gets offset to the side when lowering with the factory bar. Any panhard bar equipped car is going to shift when lowering the car, in a way a panhard bar is a pendulum…

Lowering with just the springs will cause excessive camber and uneven tire wear up front, that is why we use our strut mounts, in addition to being stronger they have room for camber adjustment, the stock ones don’t.

Camber bolts are an inexpensive way of not using strut mounts, they have less room for adjustment (about degree vs 1-1.5 degrees with mounts).

The dampers (shocks and struts) control how the springs oscillate, the factory ones are matched to the factory springs. Our springs will work well with the factory ones, but upgrading is definitely worth it in terms of ride quality and performance both.

Springs, dampers, and mounts all have the same labor so doing them at the same time also saves on labor cost/time and alignments.

Let me know if I can provide any additional information?

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Basically, you can just buy some lowering springs (I have the Ford Racing K Springs) for the look and be ok; HOWEVER, for ride quality and handling purposes you should upgrade your shocks and struts. I have the Ford Racing Shocks and Struts and do just fine.
Really appreciate the info from you and Vistablue. I called my local Performance shop and they quoted me at $440 which is not too bad, they are a pretty damn good shop as i get my car tuned there all the time, experienced with excellent reviews. should be getting my car lowered next month
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I appreciate the replies, i think the best thing for me to do is stop by the local Performance shop ( luckily i have one 20 minutes away from my house) and have them look at it and tell me how much it costs to lower it the proper way. I am pretty sure i will be looking at a $1500 bill at least
seriously? 2013 Mustang GT Convertible. I bought Ford Racing K-Springs, installed them in place of the stock springs (by myself), and that was it. Had the alignment looked at, but it was still in spec, so no alignment was needed. Cost me a total of $200 for the springs, and $150 for my BMR adjustable Panhard bar to center the rear end, and that was the only cost.

They've been on the car for 10,000 miles now..
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$1500 to install suspension goods? Seems WAYY too high. Order your own parts and just have them install. I love the stance I get from my Eibach Pro-kit & Koni STR.T's. I also needed camber bolts but, thats pretty much it. You will need a panhard bar as well. Don't know how cheap it was when I did it, but it's reliable and thats what really matters
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Steeda Sport Springs, Koni STR.T shocks, BMR Panhard bar, and Steeda HD Strut mounts...absolute cheapest way, do it yourself and save a ton.
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