Future proofing daily driver for hard driving
#31
If gas goes to 6$ I'll be looking into those dancing kia hamsters or a Briggs and Stratton.
The 3.7 may become the survivor of the next ice age. Wait till 2015 and the return of the 1974-78 Mustang II or a two door Taurus 4 banger.
The 3.7 may become the survivor of the next ice age. Wait till 2015 and the return of the 1974-78 Mustang II or a two door Taurus 4 banger.
#32
I use my v6 convertible as a daily driver (close to 50k miles on my 2011), and drive it like a race car.
just don't be too extreme.
a few tips:
- be careful on the exhaust ( if you reline the engine, you might want a quiet exaust, as a loud one redlined will likely go on your nerves on a daily basis).
- buy a CAI (yes, it's a mainstream mod, but it's one of the best)
- buy a tuner & custom tune (!!!). again, it's mainstream but totally needed on a mustang. put 93 if you can, 91 if not.
- change the gears. I had 2.73, changed to 4.10, total different car. 3.73 is probably better if you watch the mpgs. (I was doing 19.5 avg on 2.73, I am doing 17.1 now, but no more 30mpg road trips...)
- wider tires (!) . you won't believe the difference between the factory michelin pilot A/S and any other brand. Go wider (285+ on rear), and with better grip (nitto, ps2, ...). You won't regret it. I should have done that the very first day.
- buy a can of plasti dip and have fun with it. lots of safe appearance mods to do for super cheap with that stuff.
- if you have a fancy driving style, invest in a radar detector https://mustangforums.com/forum/2005-2014-mustangs/695153-pics-of-my-interior-mods-2011-v6.html. Much needed to know when to stand still.
- watch ebay & craigslists for good deals & take off parts.
just don't be too extreme.
a few tips:
- be careful on the exhaust ( if you reline the engine, you might want a quiet exaust, as a loud one redlined will likely go on your nerves on a daily basis).
- buy a CAI (yes, it's a mainstream mod, but it's one of the best)
- buy a tuner & custom tune (!!!). again, it's mainstream but totally needed on a mustang. put 93 if you can, 91 if not.
- change the gears. I had 2.73, changed to 4.10, total different car. 3.73 is probably better if you watch the mpgs. (I was doing 19.5 avg on 2.73, I am doing 17.1 now, but no more 30mpg road trips...)
- wider tires (!) . you won't believe the difference between the factory michelin pilot A/S and any other brand. Go wider (285+ on rear), and with better grip (nitto, ps2, ...). You won't regret it. I should have done that the very first day.
- buy a can of plasti dip and have fun with it. lots of safe appearance mods to do for super cheap with that stuff.
- if you have a fancy driving style, invest in a radar detector https://mustangforums.com/forum/2005-2014-mustangs/695153-pics-of-my-interior-mods-2011-v6.html. Much needed to know when to stand still.
- watch ebay & craigslists for good deals & take off parts.
#34
I'll soon be purchasing a new 2014 v6 Mustang, of which I plan to daily drive. However, I also plan to drive it harder than a current car, and it may see the red-line everyday. Additionally, I want to occasionally bring it to the track just to unleash the power I cannot use on the regular road.
1. What can I do to future proof the engine and other components so a daily driver can be driven hard?
2. What are some fundamental absolutely necessary modifications to increase the enjoyment of tracking a car? (maybe brakes? tires?)
Does any one daily drive their stand but also drive it like its a ferrari?
1. What can I do to future proof the engine and other components so a daily driver can be driven hard?
2. What are some fundamental absolutely necessary modifications to increase the enjoyment of tracking a car? (maybe brakes? tires?)
Does any one daily drive their stand but also drive it like its a ferrari?
On the street, there is little need (or benefit, for that matter) to running much past the revs where peak torque is developed. Assuming that you do manage to get past your teenage hooning, you might discover that playing tunes with the engine running between 3500 and 5500 is more satisfying than you now think. Give yourself a real chance here.
The next thing, from an autocross point of view, is that the order of importance goes "seat time, tires and wheels, everything else". Mostly, it applies to HPDE/open-tracking, except that brakes move up the list out of the "everything else" category.
You can't accomplish all of the above at once. Trust me on this point, even though you probably can't see it this way yet.
Seat time particularly applies to people your age. Part of that is to get you past the urge to play "GT5 Ferrari-driver", which takes some folks longer than others. Make that 'instructed seat time', because there is much more to track driving and even enthusiastic street driving than you apparently realize. Think smooth, drive smooth . . . which is about as far opposite to showing off as any kind of hard driving gets.
As your skills improve, your thoughts and preferences on various mods may change. I know that even at age 65 mine still do (and if you think that's because I'm slowing down, my avatar pic is only a little over a year old at this point). Maybe learning to resist the "must.spend.money.now" urge will save you a few cycles of buying, trying, not liking, and buying/trying again. Hopefully it gets you past simply throwing money and parts at the car while it's still way more capable than you are.
Actually that probably was my top reason. Good handling has been a high priority item since about . . . forever.
Even in stock form it's better than what the people who complain about understeer in street driving would have you believe.
Norm
Last edited by Norm Peterson; 06-12-2013 at 07:59 AM.
#35
Not that I would recommend somebody buying anything else on a Mustang forum though...
(Unless they are going to destroy it/themselves)
#36
On an absolute scale, for a pure track toy or maybe even more so for a serious autocross effort there are better choices.
That really wasn't my point. I was ranking handling above things like acceleration and exhaust sound, and way above feature content and all the infotainment and connectivity stuff that seems to be the current rage (and that much beyond A/C and FM/CD capability I could hardly care less about).
IOW, pretty much above everything besides having a real metal roof, 2+2 seating, and a conventional manual transmission. Not necessarily in that order.
If I was car shopping today, a 1LE-optioned 1SS Camaro would get serious consideration, despite that car's extra bulk and weight. At the next higher price point, I'd take the upcoming Z/28 over the GT500 every time (and also over any other Camaro, Mustang, or Challenger). Ford would do well to pay close attention to that one.
Norm
That really wasn't my point. I was ranking handling above things like acceleration and exhaust sound, and way above feature content and all the infotainment and connectivity stuff that seems to be the current rage (and that much beyond A/C and FM/CD capability I could hardly care less about).
IOW, pretty much above everything besides having a real metal roof, 2+2 seating, and a conventional manual transmission. Not necessarily in that order.
If I was car shopping today, a 1LE-optioned 1SS Camaro would get serious consideration, despite that car's extra bulk and weight. At the next higher price point, I'd take the upcoming Z/28 over the GT500 every time (and also over any other Camaro, Mustang, or Challenger). Ford would do well to pay close attention to that one.
Norm
Last edited by Norm Peterson; 06-13-2013 at 02:58 PM. Reason: sentence
#37
Why don't you just save a little money and get a used 2011 5.0 for the same price? If you're looking for a performance car, there are plenty more out there for the same price that are potentially better. Just look at Car and Driver or Motortrend, they do these kinds of head-to-head tests all the time. I believe the FR-S/BRZ won in the C&D tests, and costs less to boot. Not that I'm saying a Mustang isn't a good option, just sit down and seriously think about what it is that you are wanting out of a car. I doubt anybody chose a Mustang based on it's handling...
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Last edited by bakerjd; 06-13-2013 at 01:19 PM.
#38
The best thing you can do to have your engine run forever is to never drive hard on old oil and never drive hard when your engine is still cold.
And I take my stang up to the redline almost on the daily. I take an off ramp that has two sweeping turns and a 1000 ft straight and it's the highlight of my day. Hitting 5500 rpm in my 4.6 and I'm not worried one bit considering there are porsche flat sixes that go up to 8000.
And I take my stang up to the redline almost on the daily. I take an off ramp that has two sweeping turns and a 1000 ft straight and it's the highlight of my day. Hitting 5500 rpm in my 4.6 and I'm not worried one bit considering there are porsche flat sixes that go up to 8000.
#40