How can I save gas?
#61
I don't want the drama myself but onoccassion I find myself in the midst of them through nothing but fault of my own need to jump in and poke people.
I am the 13 year old with a gas can and a fire pit...
Last edited by Gary Ugarek; 08-25-2014 at 09:52 AM.
#62
A little thing called the internet can shed some light on this issue....
http://www.edmunds.com/car-compariso...atorId=4896896
True Cost to Own is a tool that helps estimate the total five-year cost of buying and owning a vehicle. (TCOŽ) is the sum of eight components: Depreciation, Taxes and fees, Fuel, Maintenance, Repairs, Tax Credits, Financing costs (interest), and Insurance premiums.
Mustang 5.0 V8 - $55,930
Prius Hybrid - $44,181
$195.00 more per month....is it really worth it looking like a dick in your Prius, with everyone hating you going WOT in the fast lane, and holding up traffic?
http://www.edmunds.com/car-compariso...atorId=4896896
True Cost to Own is a tool that helps estimate the total five-year cost of buying and owning a vehicle. (TCOŽ) is the sum of eight components: Depreciation, Taxes and fees, Fuel, Maintenance, Repairs, Tax Credits, Financing costs (interest), and Insurance premiums.
Mustang 5.0 V8 - $55,930
Prius Hybrid - $44,181
$195.00 more per month....is it really worth it looking like a dick in your Prius, with everyone hating you going WOT in the fast lane, and holding up traffic?
Last edited by Roy_R; 08-25-2014 at 12:30 PM.
#64
The aftermarket CAI is a placebo effect. I'm sure of it. The very fact that these aftermarket "cold" air intakes are not sealed and pull in hot hair from the engine compartment further proves that they are a waste.
#65
Are you going from personal experience or simply from what you have heard others say? Because like others that have posted in here, I am have had personaly measured and l documented gains.
#66
#67
If the OP drives his car the same way in the same area and gets XX mpg avg over the course of a set time frame then installs a CAI/filter/muffler/blinker fluid or what ever and then drives the same area the same way and now gets 1-2 mpg avg more over the same time frame then the modification he made yielded a gain.
In a controlled environment these cars will get 45 mpg at a constant rpm/speed with no environmental factors.
your "engineer" thought process is why products get recalled. It works/looks good on paper, but doesn't work in the REAL world.
#68
#69
If the OP drives his car the same way in the same area and gets XX mpg avg over the course of a set time frame then installs a CAI/filter/muffler/blinker fluid or what ever and then drives the same area the same way and now gets 1-2 mpg avg more over the same time frame then the modification he made yielded a gain.
In your case, it would be two driving scenarios in which all you know is that you may or may not be driving with installed mods. This certainly becomes problematic when said mods can be audibly recognized, but the bottom line is, if you know what is being tested, you ARE going to bias the results of that test. That right there is a scientifically proven fact. There's simply no way you can say with certainty that you are in fact driving the same way. In fact, the audible feedback of these mods WILL have an impact on how you drive the car. That can be said with certainty. If it doesn't, you aren't human.
Hell, many studies/experiments/tests these days are done in a double blind manner, where not only the people being tested don't know which group they are in, but the people performing the test don't know which group the participants are in, because it has also been proven that the professionals running the experiment can bias the results as well.
#70
People are naturally and innately biased. We can't avoid it. Any sort of scientific tests that involves human interaction needs to take certain steps to account for this bias. The most popular and effective step is what's called a blind test, whereby the participants of said test don't know what aspect of the test they're actually involved in.
In your case, it would be two driving scenarios in which all you know is that you may or may not be driving with installed mods. This certainly becomes problematic when said mods can be audibly recognized, but the bottom line is, if you know what is being tested, you ARE going to bias the results of that test. That right there is a scientifically proven fact. There's simply no way you can say with certainty that you are in fact driving the same way. In fact, the audible feedback of these mods WILL have an impact on how you drive the car. That can be said with certainty. If it doesn't, you aren't human.
Hell, many studies/experiments/tests these days are done in a double blind manner, where not only the people being tested don't know which group they are in, but the people performing the test don't know which group the participants are in, because it has also been proven that the professionals running the experiment can bias the results as well.
In your case, it would be two driving scenarios in which all you know is that you may or may not be driving with installed mods. This certainly becomes problematic when said mods can be audibly recognized, but the bottom line is, if you know what is being tested, you ARE going to bias the results of that test. That right there is a scientifically proven fact. There's simply no way you can say with certainty that you are in fact driving the same way. In fact, the audible feedback of these mods WILL have an impact on how you drive the car. That can be said with certainty. If it doesn't, you aren't human.
Hell, many studies/experiments/tests these days are done in a double blind manner, where not only the people being tested don't know which group they are in, but the people performing the test don't know which group the participants are in, because it has also been proven that the professionals running the experiment can bias the results as well.
However, I believe, that with a longer test, like owning of a car, that it will be nearly impossible to continue to skew the results to favor the mod after an extended time. Especially when your goal from the beginning is to get the best possibly mileage.