Hydrocarbon Filter Question
#1
Hydrocarbon Filter Question
I've been researching buying a CAI for my 2006 Mustang GT, During this research I kept reading about some people pulling their Hydrocarbon filter and gaining about 6 more rwhp which in my view is significant. I've also read that this filter is on the '05 but isn't supposed to be on the '06.
Has anybody with an '06 checked for this? Has anybody with an '05 or '06 (if present) pulled it? If I find one in mine, it's going bye bye when I put in the new CAI, which ever I decide on. This decision will be harder than the decision I make on which exhaust I buy...
Here is a quote from Mustang Magazine's test:
http://mustang50magazine.com/techart...ld_air_intake/
Has anybody with an '06 checked for this? Has anybody with an '05 or '06 (if present) pulled it? If I find one in mine, it's going bye bye when I put in the new CAI, which ever I decide on. This decision will be harder than the decision I make on which exhaust I buy...
Here is a quote from Mustang Magazine's test:
The good news is, there's a lot more area to work with than on the '04 GT, and the willing Three-Valve mill rallies around a breath of fresh air. Our baseline numbers were made with the car in stock trim, then we pulled the hydrocarbon trap from the inlet and got 261 rear-wheel horsepower and 282 lb-ft of torque--a 6-rwhp gain over the base numbers; add that into the final numbers if you like.
#3
RE: Hydrocarbon Filter Question
We are talking about the dingus in the intake? Metal, with openings, won't filter much at all? I pulled mine. I'm thinking if you took it and smashed the metal parts together that you may discover that maybe you would find 10/20% of the intake track is blocked. I didn't get my car retuned. I'm not a "sharpie", keep wondering if it is good or bad to remove. Night or Day performance difference I have not seen. Have wondered if gas mileage was/is better worse.
On the retune thing, a thought, are we saying that as the air filter gets dirty we should get the car retuned? I'm thinking the computer can make adjustments for the change in airflow. What say you?
On the retune thing, a thought, are we saying that as the air filter gets dirty we should get the car retuned? I'm thinking the computer can make adjustments for the change in airflow. What say you?
#4
RE: Hydrocarbon Filter Question
If you don't believe in tuning the car don't do it. I am wrong along with every other mag that has done any testing to the '05 and all of these speed shops don't know what they are talking about either.
#5
RE: Hydrocarbon Filter Question
ORIGINAL: algregory
We are talking about the dingus in the intake? Metal, with openings, won't filter much at all? I pulled mine. I'm thinking if you took it and smashed the metal parts together that you may discover that maybe you would find 10/20% of the intake track is blocked. I didn't get my car retuned. I'm not a "sharpie", keep wondering if it is good or bad to remove. Night or Day performance difference I have not seen. Have wondered if gas mileage was/is better worse.
On the retune thing, a thought, are we saying that as the air filter gets dirty we should get the car retuned? I'm thinking the computer can make adjustments for the change in airflow. What say you?
We are talking about the dingus in the intake? Metal, with openings, won't filter much at all? I pulled mine. I'm thinking if you took it and smashed the metal parts together that you may discover that maybe you would find 10/20% of the intake track is blocked. I didn't get my car retuned. I'm not a "sharpie", keep wondering if it is good or bad to remove. Night or Day performance difference I have not seen. Have wondered if gas mileage was/is better worse.
On the retune thing, a thought, are we saying that as the air filter gets dirty we should get the car retuned? I'm thinking the computer can make adjustments for the change in airflow. What say you?
"XXX"
Sorry but every mod on the 05/06's requires a tune. Yes even the Carbon Trap filter removal. it's the whole 'drive by wire throttle' that they now have. You don't HAVE TO get a retune but you will only see between 25% to 50% of the true potential of any mod without it.
Granted the carbon filter is not a mod persay but it has shown to give you an increase of HP with removing it and a update from a hand held.
MMFF was the first to do this little mod and found that just doing that added around 6hp. Even they stated you have to tune the car after any mods to take advantage of the new mod.
#7
RE: Hydrocarbon Filter Question
At some point in 05 production they stopped using them. My 2005 was built April 4, 2005 and didn't have one...
So the burning question... did Ford have a different tune for cars built without the trap, or is it the same tune?
So the burning question... did Ford have a different tune for cars built without the trap, or is it the same tune?
#9
RE: Hydrocarbon Filter Question
I just got off the phone with Ford. They can't find a part number for the '06 Mustang GT's but they can for '05's so I'm guessing it isn't on mine. None of the service techs have even heard of this filter, good grief.
Anyway, I will be buying a Diable tuner and the MRT CAI this Spring, I like the fit and finish. Here is a quote on it from the article... Not the most powerful of the group but damn good.
Anyway, I will be buying a Diable tuner and the MRT CAI this Spring, I like the fit and finish. Here is a quote on it from the article... Not the most powerful of the group but damn good.
Anchored by Scott Hoag, former lead engineer for Team Mustang at Ford Motor Company, Mustang Racing Technologies is a talented collection of engineers and designers who are more than a little familiar with the Mustang platform. According to MRT, its cold-air does not need a reprogram of the stock computer once installed, which is a significant savings in the final purchase price.
The MRT cold-air posted significant power and torque gains, but it rang the air/fuel meter at a rather lean 13.0:1, something we'd be concerned about if an owner were to add an exhaust or throttle body--anything that may push the tune into the too-lean range. Still, when corrected for air/fuel with an SCT tune, the power stayed pretty much the same, indicating the things weren't unsafe. As Scott explained, MRT's cold-air is part of an integral system for sensible street Mustang enthusiasts, and as such this system shines. As you continue to add MRT components, a computer flash is certainly on the menu.
Of those tested, the MRT system was also one of the best looking with its carbon-fiber filter housing and bright-chrome inlet tube. It looked wonderful under the hood of our silver GT test car, and our judges raved over the muscular good looks. On our test sample, we found one bad clip that held the lid on the K&N conical filter. This clip broke during installation, which could have been from the hurried pace of our installers. Other than that, our test notes read flawlessly for this cold-air.
By the Numbers
MRT Cold-Air
Price: $348.95 (PN ssd-8000-f)
Peak Horsepower: 278 (17hp gain)/ (281 with SCT tune)
Peak Torque: 298 lb-ft (17-lb-ft gain)/(298 lb-ft with SCT tune)
The MRT cold-air posted significant power and torque gains, but it rang the air/fuel meter at a rather lean 13.0:1, something we'd be concerned about if an owner were to add an exhaust or throttle body--anything that may push the tune into the too-lean range. Still, when corrected for air/fuel with an SCT tune, the power stayed pretty much the same, indicating the things weren't unsafe. As Scott explained, MRT's cold-air is part of an integral system for sensible street Mustang enthusiasts, and as such this system shines. As you continue to add MRT components, a computer flash is certainly on the menu.
Of those tested, the MRT system was also one of the best looking with its carbon-fiber filter housing and bright-chrome inlet tube. It looked wonderful under the hood of our silver GT test car, and our judges raved over the muscular good looks. On our test sample, we found one bad clip that held the lid on the K&N conical filter. This clip broke during installation, which could have been from the hurried pace of our installers. Other than that, our test notes read flawlessly for this cold-air.
By the Numbers
MRT Cold-Air
Price: $348.95 (PN ssd-8000-f)
Peak Horsepower: 278 (17hp gain)/ (281 with SCT tune)
Peak Torque: 298 lb-ft (17-lb-ft gain)/(298 lb-ft with SCT tune)
#10
RE: Hydrocarbon Filter Question
ORIGINAL: viking396
I just got off the phone with Ford. They can't find a part number for the '06 Mustang GT's but they can for '05's so I'm guessing it isn't on mine. None of the service techs have even heard of this filter, good grief.
Anyway, I will be buying a Diable tuner and the MRT CAI this Spring, I like the fit and finish. Here is a quote on it from the article... Not the most powerful of the group but damn good.
I just got off the phone with Ford. They can't find a part number for the '06 Mustang GT's but they can for '05's so I'm guessing it isn't on mine. None of the service techs have even heard of this filter, good grief.
Anyway, I will be buying a Diable tuner and the MRT CAI this Spring, I like the fit and finish. Here is a quote on it from the article... Not the most powerful of the group but damn good.
Anchored by Scott Hoag, former lead engineer for Team Mustang at Ford Motor Company, Mustang Racing Technologies is a talented collection of engineers and designers who are more than a little familiar with the Mustang platform. According to MRT, its cold-air does not need a reprogram of the stock computer once installed, which is a significant savings in the final purchase price.
The MRT cold-air posted significant power and torque gains, but it rang the air/fuel meter at a rather lean 13.0:1, something we'd be concerned about if an owner were to add an exhaust or throttle body--anything that may push the tune into the too-lean range. Still, when corrected for air/fuel with an SCT tune, the power stayed pretty much the same, indicating the things weren't unsafe. As Scott explained, MRT's cold-air is part of an integral system for sensible street Mustang enthusiasts, and as such this system shines. As you continue to add MRT components, a computer flash is certainly on the menu.
Of those tested, the MRT system was also one of the best looking with its carbon-fiber filter housing and bright-chrome inlet tube. It looked wonderful under the hood of our silver GT test car, and our judges raved over the muscular good looks. On our test sample, we found one bad clip that held the lid on the K&N conical filter. This clip broke during installation, which could have been from the hurried pace of our installers. Other than that, our test notes read flawlessly for this cold-air.
By the Numbers
MRT Cold-Air
Price: $348.95 (PN ssd-8000-f)
Peak Horsepower: 278 (17hp gain)/ (281 with SCT tune)
Peak Torque: 298 lb-ft (17-lb-ft gain)/(298 lb-ft with SCT tune)
The MRT cold-air posted significant power and torque gains, but it rang the air/fuel meter at a rather lean 13.0:1, something we'd be concerned about if an owner were to add an exhaust or throttle body--anything that may push the tune into the too-lean range. Still, when corrected for air/fuel with an SCT tune, the power stayed pretty much the same, indicating the things weren't unsafe. As Scott explained, MRT's cold-air is part of an integral system for sensible street Mustang enthusiasts, and as such this system shines. As you continue to add MRT components, a computer flash is certainly on the menu.
Of those tested, the MRT system was also one of the best looking with its carbon-fiber filter housing and bright-chrome inlet tube. It looked wonderful under the hood of our silver GT test car, and our judges raved over the muscular good looks. On our test sample, we found one bad clip that held the lid on the K&N conical filter. This clip broke during installation, which could have been from the hurried pace of our installers. Other than that, our test notes read flawlessly for this cold-air.
By the Numbers
MRT Cold-Air
Price: $348.95 (PN ssd-8000-f)
Peak Horsepower: 278 (17hp gain)/ (281 with SCT tune)
Peak Torque: 298 lb-ft (17-lb-ft gain)/(298 lb-ft with SCT tune)
got any pics of your car with the white stripes on it?