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Tx-skydiver, my post wasn't aimed at you. I've thought since the 05 came out all it needed were the "flanks" (my word, I just used hips 'cause it had already been used in this thread). Overall, I think the 05 is way better looking and miles ahead of my 01 (which I sold in feb this year). I also think my 01 would have looked a lot better with some kind of flank on it, JMO. I definetly don't think it's "dodgish", I personally think it is a styling cue Ford interduced long ago and dodge is using it cause it looks good. That being said, as much as I do like the new car, the rear is its weak spot, but it is growing on me. And I still stand by my statement: when the new edge came out, all the 94-98 guys hated it. Now years later, they have either come to except it or love it. And when the 05 came out there was a small faction who didn't like the retro look, wanted a more modern car. I don't think the 2010 will appeal to them, it is still retro, just reworked. But overall, I still think the 2010 is the next logical step in evolution, and a perfect car for the time. I'm not singling anyone out, just stating my opinion. And even though this is a sub-forum on the 05+, it is still 2010 specific.
By the way I did sell my 01 in Feb knowing I had to have a 2010 or '11, and will have one. It does suck to be 'Stangless, but I have other toys in the meantime, and will get a 5.0 as soon as it comes out!
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Like 07 Stang, you don't own one so you barely have a clue how we feel.
07Stang is right? He thinks I can't have an opinion on the topic because I don't currently own a mustang. That's one of the most absurd statements I've seen on this board.
You're exactly right. I don't own a s197, but that also gives me a more unbiased opinion about the s197's and the 2010's. And I personally like both. The 05-09 is BA and I think Ford took a good thing and made it even better for 2010.
It just irks me to end seeing so many s197 owners bashing the new mustang, that to be quite honest, does not look that much different. Your average joe might not even notice the difference if he saw a 2010 drive by.
I know its not only s197 owners but I'd say they're in the majority of the haters (especially on this site). Its like they're all cock hurt that they don't drive the latest model mustang.
I guess this happens with every model change and all the haters will eventually learn to deal with/like the 2010+ mustang.
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Lol@ this dude! ^^^^
I wouldn't brag about the performance of your gone 95 GT, lol.
Especially when it was stock... Ouch!
It was a solid mid-13 second car, which was respectable for the time frame that i owned it.
As for stock sn-95 GT's coming in at 215hp vs the camaros 275hp. Thats just the same Ford vs Chevy song, just a different decade. You're not hurting my feelings there. FYI folks will probably be saying the same things about the '05-10 when the 2011 comes out making 400hp.
My '95 GT was all I could afford when I was in college and I'm proud of all the work I put into that car, so don't hate!
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07Stang is right? He thinks I can't have an opinion on the topic because I don't currently own a mustang. That's one of the most absurd statements I've seen on this board.
You're exactly right. I don't own a s197, but that also gives me a more unbiased opinion about the s197's and the 2010's. And I personally like both. The 05-09 is BA and I think Ford took a good thing and made it even better for 2010.
It just irks me to end seeing so many s197 owners bashing the new mustang, that to be quite honest, does not look that much different. Your average joe might not even notice the difference if he saw a 2010 drive by.
I know its not only s197 owners but I'd say they're in the majority of the haters (especially on this site). Its like they're all cock hurt that they don't drive the latest model mustang.
I guess this happens with every model change and all the haters will eventually learn to deal with/like the 2010+ mustang.
No. 07 stang is right in saying that we are not whining and you have no basis to say that we are. We're comparing the 2010 to our cars. What are you comparing it to? Someone else's car? Its like we're all in a meeting room and you're on the outside looking in giving your 2 cents.
As for looks, we're NOT average Joe's. We can see the differences between a 05-09 and a 10 quite easily. YOU may not be able to, but we can.
Now I'm curious though, what car are you driving since the 95GT is gone?
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It just irks me to end seeing so many s197 owners bashing the new mustang.
If it irks you so much, don't read it and go post somewhere else more pleasant for you. This is a discussion forum, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, even those that irk you.The title of this thread should have tipped you off that you might be irked. That doesn't give you the right to come in and call people crybabies and insult them. Start a post about being irked if you feel the need - you're entitled.
Time to grow up. If you can't contribute constructively, then don't contribute at all and find another thread in which you can. That goes for everyone, not just you, who feels the need to post their obnoxious, negative, insulting opinions in threads they'd be better off leaving.
No. 07 stang is right in saying that we are not whining and you have no basis to say that we are. We're comparing the 2010 to our cars. What are you comparing it to? Someone else's car? Its like we're all in a meeting room and you're on the outside looking in giving your 2 cents.
As for looks, we're NOT average Joe's. We can see the differences between a 05-09 and a 10 quite easily. YOU may not be able to, but we can.
Now I'm curious though, what car are you driving since the 95GT is gone?
First off, the title of this thread is "Disappointed with new 2010 Mustang Design" and is posted in the 2010 section. NOT " '05-'09 vs the 2010 mustang"
Second, who are you to say that I have to own a s197 to post anything of worth in this thread? I've driven both cars, HAVE YOU? I don't have to own are car to make cosmetic judgments about it. The same way you don't have to own a 2010 to compare your car to it, dude.
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If it irks you so much, don't read it and go post somewhere else more pleasant for you. This is a discussion forum, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, even those that irk you.Tthe title of this thread should have tipped you off that you might be irked. That doesn't give you the right to come in and call people crybabies and insult them. Start a post about being irked if you feel the need - you're entitled.
Time to grow up. If you can't contribute constructively, then don't contribute at all and find another thread in which you can. That goes for everyone, not just you, who feels the need to post their obnoxious, negative, insulting opinions in threads they'd be better off leaving.
You do realize that some peoples opinions are insulting and nothing else? But you say these forums are for discussions an everyone is entitled to their opinions..... Some will contribute their insulting opinions and not see them as insulting and so feel they have the right to contribute and by your opening statement above..so do you.
I agree with you that these discussions should be civil and hopefully we all contribute something worthwhile. Each generation of Mustang owners have those diehards that will not like/appreciate the nexy generation and will bash it to solidify their position that the car they drive is better for this reason or that reason.... What we should all agree upon is we are all driving Mustangs ... just different for each person's taste and needs. It doesn't give us a reason to bash someone though for their opinions...likes..dislikes.
I am not accusing you of bashing or being obnoxious...just picking up on where you left off on this discussion..with my opinion
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First off, the title of this thread is "Disappointed with new 2010 Mustang Design" and is posted in the 2010 section. NOT " '05-'09 vs the 2010 mustang"
Second, who are you to say that I have to own a s197 to post anything of worth in this thread? I've driven both cars, HAVE YOU? I don't have to own are car to make cosmetic judgments about it. The same way you don't have to own a 2010 to compare your car to it, dude.
LOL. I've driven every body mustang since the 90 fox (actually owned that one too). Doubt you've done that. But anyways, driving one and owning one are vastly different. You being behind the wheel of a 05-09 stang for a couple minutes means nothing. I've put 30k miles on my stang. I know what parts I hate and what parts I love. Knowing that and seeing what changes/improvements have been made to the 10 give me enough basis to make a valid judgment.
And like someone else said. If it really bothers you that much that some people are disappointed with the 10, just leave the thread. You calling people whiners isn't going to change how they feel.
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You do realize that some peoples opinions are insulting and nothing else? But you say these forums are for discussions an everyone is entitled to their opinions..... Some will contribute their insulting opinions and not see them as insulting and so feel they have the right to contribute and by your opening statement above..so do you.
I agree with you that these discussions should be civil and hopefully we all contribute something worthwhile. Each generation of Mustang owners have those diehards that will not like/appreciate the nexy generation and will bash it to solidify their position that the car they drive is better for this reason or that reason.... What we should all agree upon is we are all driving Mustangs ... just different for each person's taste and needs. It doesn't give us a reason to bash someone though for their opinions...likes..dislikes.
I am not accusing you of bashing or being obnoxious...just picking up on where you left off on this discussion..with my opinion
It's one thing to insult the car - these forums are here for people to express their opinions on Mustangs, positive or negative, in a respectful manner. It's quite another thing to insult or attack people because you disagree with their opinion. That is clearly not allowed according to the forum rules.
While debating and discussion is fine, respect your fellow enthusiasts. Being of a diverse background, members are likely to express different opinions, and while opinions may differ from yours, they are just that, opinions; and everyone is entitled to express theirs freely. We will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks, or platform bashing (V6 versus V8, SN95 versus S197, etc). Do not flame, bother, bug, disrespect, hound or taunt ANYONE on the forums or through private messaging or chat room. If we feel a thread is getting out of hand we will close or delete it. You can/will lose your posting privileges if you continue this type of behavior.
Calling people crybabies and whiners is insulting people, not the car. If you're gonna get bent out of shape because someone insults a car that you like, better go elsewhere.
I enjoy all the opinions here about mustangs - positive and negative. I don't enjoy getting called a crybaby or whiner by someone whose judgement isn't good enough to know when NOT to post.
Second, who are you to say that I have to own a s197 to post anything of worth in this thread?
Anything of worth is welcome, including even-tempered counterpoint to statements made by others.
Suggestions that other participants are whining about not having the latest toy, accusations that they are simply hating on the 2010, and miscellaneous name-calling does not fit any definition of worth. It's not on topic and accomplishes nothing constructive. Hardly the way to get anybody to change their mind . . . if that's what you want to achieve.
My suggestion at this point is to stop worrying about what a small number of people on the internet think, go buy a 2010 as circumstances permit, and enjoy it. Nobody in this thread is out to change your mind, and it's not worth the points on your blood pressure to look at it like they are.
It's one thing to insult the car - these forums are here for people to express their opinions on Mustangs, positive or negative, in a respectful manner. It's quite another thing to insult or attack people because you disagree with their opinion. That is clearly not allowed according to the forum rules.
While debating and discussion is fine, respect your fellow enthusiasts. Being of a diverse background, members are likely to express different opinions, and while opinions may differ from yours, they are just that, opinions; and everyone is entitled to express theirs freely. We will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks, or platform bashing (V6 versus V8, SN95 versus S197, etc). Do not flame, bother, bug, disrespect, hound or taunt ANYONE on the forums or through private messaging or chat room. If we feel a thread is getting out of hand we will close or delete it. You can/will lose your posting privileges if you continue this type of behavior.
Calling people crybabies and whiners is insulting people, not the car. If you're gonna get bent out of shape because someone insults a car that you like, better go elsewhere.
I enjoy all the opinions here about mustangs - positive and negative. I don't enjoy getting called a crybaby or whiner by someone whose judgement isn't good enough to know when NOT to post.
I agree with you 100%. My point..was some people on these forums ONLY contribute negative opinions. in their minds they are not negative. It's easier to just ignore those comments / opinions because you are fighting a battle you can never win. You should see how many times I was attacked personally on these forums just for stating...in my opinion...that the 2010 car is head and shoulders above the '05 GT Premium I currently drive. And when I state I don't have an issue with the rear of the 2010 or not concerned with waiting for the new 5L... well suddenly I am no longer a Mustang enthusiast. It's amazing the negativity I gete for simply stating my opinion on a car..it ends up as a personal attack on me for what I like or dislike. Those are the people I am referring too when I state their opinions are nothing but negative and insulting opinions
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