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Compairing the 05-09 to to the 2010 is like compairing apples to oranges. The 05-09 was a "retro design" inspired car where as the 2010 has nothing retro about it. It's a completely new design breaking into new ground. Those who like the 1967-69 looks of the Mustang are going to like the 05-09 more since that is what ford based its retro design off of for those years. Those who are looking for the next best thing are going to lead towards the 2010. Both cars have their good and bad points but compairing the two to each other is just wrong.....
Disagree. I don't own one - yet (I like them both very much), I have followed the growth of Mustangs since their origin in 64.5. First off, I respectfully suggest that to say that either the 05->09 or the 10 look like the 67 through 69 does not make much sense, since the 67/68 car is a completely different car than the 69/70, closer to the 64.5-66 car than the later.
To my mind the 05-09 car has its roots mostly in the straight lined semi-fastback 64.5-66 car. The 10 model begins to take in the slightly more curvy shape of the 67-68, while the rear-end adds in some of the later 69-70 model.
I like them both, though I doubt I will ever like the rear of the new model as much as the 05-09 car ... but the rest of it I think is actually nicer.
~Bill
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A good argument can be made that the 2010 Mustang is even MORE retro than the '05 design. I don't know how you can think that the 2010 is a completely new ground-breaking design. If anything, it looks like more like a "freshened" 2005 Mustang, not an all-new design. But if you compare the 2010 to some of the older Mustangs, you'll see a few things that they have in common that were absent on the 2005 Mustang. Yes, the "hips" are one big styling element that the 2010 has in common with older Stangs, but have you noticed the shape of the fenders where they transition to the hood area? That angle is instantly recognizable in the classic Mustangs. So to say the 2010 is not a retro design is just wrong, in my opinion.
No you really can't make a good argument and I'll post some pic's to prove my point that the 05-09 are MORE retro and the 2010 is a new design with very little in common with in older Mustangs.
The first 2 pic's are of a 1967 GT Fastback and the last one of the 3 is of a 1969 GT Fastback. And of course the last two are of the 05-09. You can directly see that the 05-09 are retro designs of the 67-69 Mustang, look at the headlight buckits, grill, body lines, hood, fender flairs, Fog lights, wheels and rear end. There is no question that when you look at an 05-09 that you can see its Mustang roots directly and this is one of the reasons why it was such a huge success for Ford.
Now lets look at the 2010 GT, it has 4 elements that could be called "retro" but they barely make it in. One being the hips, 2 being the tail lights, 3 being the main body line and 4 being the fake gas cap. However only the hips come anywhere close to looking anything like Mustangs of the passed. The frontend, hood, rear end and interior are completey new designs. I will give you that you can see where on the interior there are influance from the 05-09 but thats it. But the main elements of the cars look can not be found and any other Mustang to date. Then if we take a look and the GT500 there is no question that this is a completey new design.
I like the new interior, love the front end and hood, like the rear end with the exception of the black plastic around the bottom. I looked at the wheel options and you can't get the old school looking 18" chrome wheels. They have some polished ones with several spokes, I have the nice ones on my 08' and you can't get them on the 10'.
As I said, I like the 10 car very much, but that rear ... though not terrible by any means ... first thing came to mind when I first saw it was Honda CRV <roll-eyes>
Disagree. I don't own one - yet (I like them both very much), I have followed the growth of Mustangs since their origin in 64.5. First off, I respectfully suggest that to say that either the 05->09 or the 10 look like the 67 through 69 does not make much sense, since the 67/68 car is a completely different car than the 69/70, closer to the 64.5-66 car than the later.
To my mind the 05-09 car has its roots mostly in the straight lined semi-fastback 64.5-66 car. The 10 model begins to take in the slightly more curvy shape of the 67-68, while the rear-end adds in some of the later 69-70 model.
I like them both, though I doubt I will ever like the rear of the new model as much as the 05-09 car ... but the rest of it I think is actually nicer.
~Bill
I will give you that you can also see some design elements from those years too.
I will give you that you can also see some design elements from those years too.
When I said that the 69/70 is a completely different car I will give you that I went a bit too far there. These are some specs I located on the web:
Specifications for the 1965, 1966 Ford Mustang:
Wheelbase, inches: 108.0
Length, inches: 181.6
Curb-weight range, pounds: 2,445-2,800 (1965); 2,488-2,800 (1966)
Width, inches: 68.2
Specifications for the 1967, 1968 Ford Mustang:
Wheelbase, inches: 108.0
Length, inches: 183.6
Curb-weight range, pounds: 2,568-3,000 (1967); 2,635-3,300 (1968)
Width, inches: 70.9
Specifications for the 1969, 1970 Ford Mustang:
Wheelbase, inches: 108.0
Length, inches: 187.4
Curb-weight range, pounds: 2,690-3,210 (1969); 2,721-3,240 (1970)
Width, inches: 71.3-71.7
One difference between the 64.5-66 and the 67-70 is that the former are semi-fastbacks (like the 05-10) while the later are full fastbacks ... that is, the ones that were not notchbacks or convertables ;-)
It's really a matter of eye-of-the-beholder thing and I don't think - short of asking the designers - you can get any absolutes. Even then, they could never be sure of any subconscious motivators.
"The frontend, hood, rear end and interior are completey new designs."
There is no way they are completely new. They are modified versions of the 05-09. That is plain as day. They are different, yes, but are still based on the 05-09 design. Except for maybe the rear.
Possibly the front and the back are more retro on the '05 to '09. but the sides of the car and hood are no where near close. The sides of the old mustangs had the hips and the bodyline that are not present on the '05 to '09....
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No you really can't make a good argument and I'll post some pic's to prove my point that the 05-09 are MORE retro and the 2010 is a new design with very little in common with in older Mustangs.
Now lets look at the 2010 GT, it has 4 elements that could be called "retro" but they barely make it in. One being the hips, 2 being the tail lights, 3 being the main body line and 4 being the fake gas cap. However only the hips come anywhere close to looking anything like Mustangs of the passed. The frontend, hood, rear end and interior are completey new designs.
Funny, but you seemed to have missed a few things. Like I said, an argument can be made that the 2010 is even MORE retro than the 2005. First, yes the hips are a major point here because the '05 simply didn't have them and the '10 does, like the older Mustangs. But you seemed to have missed the fact that the top edge of the fenders (on the 2010) has the same leading edge shape that was present on the older Mustangs as well. You can clearly see it in your picture of the '69 Mustang. You may not have noticed, but Ford put the same design element into the 2010, but it was completely absent on the '05. You also missed the door crease that is clearly visible in your first pic of the '67 Mustang. The 2010 has a much more pronounced & similar body line there, making the case for another retro design element.
To say that the 2010 design is all new is ridiculous. The car is instantly recognizable as a Mustang from the front, side, or rear. It has enough in common with Mustangs of the late 60's & early 70's that anyone should be able to see the family resemblance.
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