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fellas easy on the bickering lol.. looks wise you can throw me into the callenger crowd because i personally think they look the best.. but i am a mustang guy at heart and always will be.. my nest stang will be the terminator, other than the super snake its my favorite of all time.. and as far as the motors go.. why wouldnt ford bring back the good ole strong/last forever 4.9 liter 300 inline 6 and throw a Twin turbo setup on it.. give you loads of power, good gas milage, and easy to tune and mod to get lots of power...
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actually i like the look of the new mustang more than i originally thought.. wow props to ford for making the subtle yet awesome changes to the cars apperance
I was hoping for a smaller/lighter Camaro or Challenger (particularly the Challenger, since there is a dealership less than 2 miles from my home), but cars have gotten heavier. If the Challenger was 500 pounds lighter and the Camaro 300 pounds lighter, then the test of all 3 cars would be zeroing in on how heavy all 3 cars are.
Ford does look good in this comparison, because the Camaro and Challenger depended on existing platforms that leaned their cars to a larger and heavier size. Too bad they couldn't have brought their higher horsepower engines in with a lighter car. Not that Ford is complaining.
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If these specs are anywhere near correct, when 3500-ish lbs now gets you a really good modern interpretation of the original Boss 302 that's saying something. Race car vs street driver complete with a full interior, A/C, crash performance requirements and all sorts of other stuff that's now mandated, 300 lbs is not a huge increase at all.
Lotus, with their models now up around 2000 lbs, has gained well over 500 since the 1960's. If the Corvette has held the line on weight gain any better over the past 40 years than the Mustang apparently has, it's only been by a little.
As far as I'm concerned, top speed is little more than a consequence of having adequate acceleration in the range of speed that represents reasonably normal driving, plus at least halfway-sane gearing. I don't need to run it up past 140 to know that it will get up there if I've got enough road.
Performance-wise, the cornering and handling capabilities (both as OE and potential) of the S197 mean much more to me than half a second at the dragstrip, and that's where the current Mustang's weight advantage pays off. It's more nimble, and even the comparisons that haven't put the Mustang on top have had to concede comment on this point.
If these specs are anywhere near correct, when 3500-ish lbs now gets you a really good modern interpretation of the original Boss 302 that's saying something. Race car vs street driver complete with a full interior, A/C, crash performance requirements and all sorts of other stuff that's now mandated, 300 lbs is not a huge increase at all.
Lotus, with their models now up around 2000 lbs, has gained well over 500 since the 1960's. If the Corvette has held the line on weight gain any better over the past 40 years than the Mustang apparently has, it's only been by a little.
As far as I'm concerned, top speed is little more than a consequence of having adequate acceleration in the range of speed that represents reasonably normal driving, plus at least halfway-sane gearing. I don't need to run it up past 140 to know that it will get up there if I've got enough road.
Performance-wise, the cornering and handling capabilities (both as OE and potential) of the S197 mean much more to me than half a second at the dragstrip, and that's where the current Mustang's weight advantage pays off. It's more nimble, and even the comparisons that haven't put the Mustang on top have had to concede comment on this point.
If these specs are anywhere near correct, when 3500-ish lbs now gets you a really good modern interpretation of the original Boss 302 that's saying something. Race car vs street driver complete with a full interior, A/C, crash performance requirements and all sorts of other stuff that's now mandated, 300 lbs is not a huge increase at all.
Lotus, with their models now up around 2000 lbs, has gained well over 500 since the 1960's. If the Corvette has held the line on weight gain any better over the past 40 years than the Mustang apparently has, it's only been by a little.
As far as I'm concerned, top speed is little more than a consequence of having adequate acceleration in the range of speed that represents reasonably normal driving, plus at least halfway-sane gearing. I don't need to run it up past 140 to know that it will get up there if I've got enough road.
Performance-wise, the cornering and handling capabilities (both as OE and potential) of the S197 mean much more to me than half a second at the dragstrip, and that's where the current Mustang's weight advantage pays off. It's more nimble, and even the comparisons that haven't put the Mustang on top have had to concede comment on this point.
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These points are exactly why C&D voted the Mustang #1. Least powerful car. Not the fastest car. But it handled the best by far and wasn't horribly left in the dust.
In the end this test was really Camaro versus Mustang because the Challenger didn't stand a chance.
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