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Old 06-08-2009, 10:19 AM   #1
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my uncle works for ford at the block plant in cleveland. he just told me that november is the last month there building 4.6 and 5.4 blocks and theres supposed to be 2 new block designes coming in. he said he didnt know wut they were but just that ford will not be producing the old modular motors anymore
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:40 PM   #2
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old news. Its called a coyote. Its a 5.0 and will have over 400 hp. There is a 3.5 liter ecotec v-6 coming out with almost 350 hp. Twin turbo.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:32 PM   #3
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yup so I guess now we have a timeline of when we will see the new stuff.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:17 PM   #4
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Lets hope when they do up the power this time the car will go on a much needed diet. That eco boost is gonna be a beast of a car as long as ford builds the motor to handle the more boost that will be thrown at it. It will also be nice to hear the term 5.0 again comming from the ads .
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old news. Its called a coyote. Its a 5.0 and will have over 400 hp. There is a 3.5 liter ecotec v-6 coming out with almost 350 hp. Twin turbo.
This isn't old news. The fact that the 4.6 and 5.4 are going to cease production entirely this November is significant. We knew that the 5.0 was going to go into the Aussie cars, and pretty strong verbage towards it going in a truck, but there was never any direct or indirect quote saying it would go in the Mustang.
We all know it, but there was no news. Now knowing the 4.6 and 5.4 will stop completely is as good as we have gotten as confirmation that the 5.0 will go in the Mustang, because what else will?
We also did not hear for sure that the GT500 engine would change. We have nothing but speculation on what will go in it.
You say 2 block designs, the Ecoboost is already in production, so it is not that. Is it the 6.2? And just because it is going to be produced alongside the 5.0 (that is speculation, but a pretty good guess I'd say) does not mean it is for the Mustang.
Some fun developments here. Discuss!
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Oh yeah, and how long does it take to take a block to a full production engine? Is this cancellation going to mean that the 5.0 will be here as a 2010.5? or is it just on schedule to come as a 2011 still?
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I thought the Mustang motor was built in Romemo Mich.?
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This isn't old news. The fact that the 4.6 and 5.4 are going to cease production entirely this November is significant. We knew that the 5.0 was going to go into the Aussie cars, and pretty strong verbage towards it going in a truck, but there was never any direct or indirect quote saying it would go in the Mustang.
We all know it, but there was no news. Now knowing the 4.6 and 5.4 will stop completely is as good as we have gotten as confirmation that the 5.0 will go in the Mustang, because what else will?
We also did not hear for sure that the GT500 engine would change. We have nothing but speculation on what will go in it.
You say 2 block designs, the Ecoboost is already in production, so it is not that. Is it the 6.2? And just because it is going to be produced alongside the 5.0 (that is speculation, but a pretty good guess I'd say) does not mean it is for the Mustang.
Some fun developments here. Discuss!
There was an article last month that said it was confirmed in the mustang. We have know this for a while. So of course the 4.6 would disappear in the mustang.
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Rollin Thunder, go read the actual press release (not article commentary, like Autoblog or anything, the actual quotes from the exec), the Australian Ford exec who confirmed the existence of the 5.0 never once said the word Mustang or even F150. He actually only commented that it fit in the Falcon engine bay, and that he had seen the power curves and that they were pretty good. He also mentioned that it was a good motor to replace the 5.4. He never mentioned killing the 4.6. This is news. We all jumped to (logical) conclusions before. This is the most official thing we have seen by far. This doesn't change the fact that, yes, we expected it to happen. But this is the first and most firm evidence that the 4.6 (and 5.4) will be replaced by something. We still don't KNOW that it will be the 5.0, but we are 97% sure.
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I think Ford is looking ahead and try to guess how far our politician assholes are gonna take the BS carbon foot print notion...
Obama, as good Socialist, might impose tax on us on engines past a certain displacement, like it is in Europe.

It might happen, it might not, but Ford has to anticipate the idiocy of DC.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason why they decided to drop the modular mills.
They're prolly developing better gas mileage engines that could work on natural gas as well, who knows...
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