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Old 09-05-2009, 11:11 AM   #11
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Notice that the Pirelli web site says:

"The P Zero Nero All Season is Pirelli's Ultra High Performance All-Season tire designed to provide all-season traction and handling. It was developed for drivers who operate their vehicles in America's various weather conditions, including in light snow."

Emphasis on "light snow". I bet that means no more than a dusting. Here in upstate NY we get alot more than that so I plan to get either snow tires or drive my daughter's '98 Sable on snowy days.

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Old 09-05-2009, 11:59 AM   #12
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Notice that the Pirelli web site says:

"The P Zero Nero All Season is Pirelli's Ultra High Performance All-Season tire designed to provide all-season traction and handling. It was developed for drivers who operate their vehicles in America's various weather conditions, including in light snow."

Emphasis on "light snow". I bet that means no more than a dusting. Here in upstate NY we get alot more than that so I plan to get either snow tires or drive my daughter's '98 Sable on snowy days.

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Where in Upstate, NY are you from? I was born and raised in the Tri-City area.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:01 PM   #13
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... All season tire will work just fine in snow as long as you take it easy. your not going to drive in 12" of snow with a mustang anyway so all your will see is light snow. just get a couple of 50lb bags of sand and put one as close to each wheel as you can. and for goodness sakes take it easy! you cant drive like you would on dry pavement. i have seen too many ppl around here that have a 4 wheel drive, snow tires, or studded tire drive like complete knuckleheads in the snow and wind up hurting themselves or others because they assume that winter tires will solve all there problems and they can drive like they where on dry pavement.
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:09 PM   #14
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I was raised in Frankfort, outside of Utica and now I live in Poughkeepsie.

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Old 09-05-2009, 02:09 PM   #15
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Here we go again...

Yeah, you can drive a Stang in snow. You can drive WELL if you're experienced. But you WILL chit your pants 5 times more often than with a beater or a car that's better in the snow (which is about 90% of the cars on the road). For those of you that the Stang is your DD, it's easy to justify that it's good in the snow. You're fooling yourselves. I don't give a rats arse that you haven't wrecked (yet). Over 36 years plus having driven more vehicles in the snow than the number of years that a good many of you have been driving gives me the RIGHT to tell you your full of crap. I say this not to stick my nose in the air at anyone but to help prevent some poor bastard from wraping his beloved car around a tree or from parking it into the backseat of another car.

And "light snow" is considered to be less than an inch by most tire manufacturers.

Be smart. A car designed for performance is NOT what you want to be driving IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE. If you must drive it in the snow, BE SMART. Invest in a set of dedicated wheels and winter tires. It sure beats that deductible and the pain involved with getting your car repaired.

... 'nough said by the old fart.

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OK.. well im going to tell you now that just because you have 36 years of driving experience it does not give you the RIGHT to tell me i am full of crap. i have my fair share of experience driving, i have driven 18 wheeler in the snow(not fun at all) down to a front wheel drive beater, all i am saying is that if you take it easy you can do fine on all season tires. i am not against having a dedicated set of snow tires at all, but for a lot of us we simply can not afford it or its really not necessary because we don't get massive amounts of snow.

sorry if my first post came off as a know it all post that was not what i was trying to get across.
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Old 09-05-2009, 04:28 PM   #17
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...sorry if my first post came off as a know it all post that was not what i was trying to get across.
Not taken at all negatively. We all have our energies around certain topics. This is one of mine. My oldest son nearly lost his life because he drove his ill-equiped car in bad weather against his fathers urgings. I don't want to see anyone get hurt.
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A friend of mine has a GT as a daily driver. hes got a set of steelies with winters mounted on them. he said its not bad if he takes it easy, even in these long Vermont winters.
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Yeah, it's understandable that you wouldn't drive as confidently in the snow as you would on solid dry pavement, however I will still look into buying a more 'official' set of strictly winter tires than risk the all seasons giving me some unnecessary scares.

Can you imagine hitting a patch of blackice coming out of the dealer, swirving onto oncoming traffic, clipping a car or two on the slide completely ripping apart your now 'growing on you rear end' then flipping a few times smashing into the side of a light pole where the wires snap off and spark your stang on fire because of the fuel that dripped out from the supposed 'capless' fuel system therefor your stang blows up with you in it now and all the meanwhile I walk up to whats left of your car and hand you a neat little ticket for not yielding coming out of the dealer ;D

And all this because I stuck with the all season tires when I could have gotten strictly winter ones. I think I'll spend the extra $$ Lol.
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"Can you imagine hitting a patch of blackice coming out of the dealer, swirving onto oncoming traffic, clipping a car or two on the slide completely ripping apart your now 'growing on you rear end' then flipping a few times smashing into the side of a light pole where the wires snap off and spark your stang on fire because of the fuel that dripped out from the supposed 'capless' fuel system therefor your stang blows up with you in it now and all the meanwhile I walk up to whats left of your car and hand you a neat little ticket for not yielding coming out of the dealer ;D"

I'd rather not.......
You are absolutely right on about the dedicated winter/snow tires. They make a tremendous improvement in the handling and safety of the car when driven on snow. The all-seasons are maybe OK in light and occasional snow, but the dedicated snow tires are worth it. Better yet, put the snow tires on a winter beater.
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