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Old 03-24-2011, 07:47 PM   #1
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There is a small bug on the update process for some users(a Windows OS issue), after updating the SCT Device Updater software to latest (2.9.7.2) some OS will need the drivers manually updated or the updater tool will not communicate with your flash device.
If your having this problem:

1. go to device manager
2. find\expand "Jungo"
3. right click on "X3PDEVICE"
4. Select "Update Driver Software"
5. Choose automatic
6. when done, re-start the SCT Device Updater software
7. connect your SCT flashing device via USB and they should now be able to communicate without any error messages.

To check if they can communicate 1st before updating your flasher, click the "display device settings & serial number" button. If it displays the correct info. your good to go. If it errors out follow the steps above.
This was the issue I had, Sean at SCT straightened me out as I hadn't seen this post until today. Thanks Sean!

I went ahead and loaded Bama's 87 street tune first, took it for a test drive, and indeed the low end pick up improved over the stock tune. The car seemed to drive similar to the stock tune in the mid - high rpm range.

I then re-loaded the stock tune, mainly to verify that I could. It loaded no problem and I verified the car would start, which it did.

I then loaded Bama's 87 performance tune, the car seemed much more lively in the mid - high range rpms. I'm going to keep this tune on the car until I go to the track, and load my 91 race tune.

The new SCT Device updater worked well uploading the 3 new tunes I received from Bama, and copying my stock tune to my computer for back up. No error codes or idiot lights were encountered once each of the tunes were loaded. The car idles smooth and all else seems normal. Seems most of the problems have been fixed.

Now I just need to drive it!

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Old 03-25-2011, 07:12 AM   #2
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Little note: Just from the description of the update steps I can tell this is specifically a Windows XP issue. Which in itself is nothing new.

Protip for windows 7 users. If you end up having issues installing a driver for a device you can do the following: Start>Search>Device Manager, find the device and uninstall the driver(check the delete driver from system box) if present. Then Start>Search>Windows Update and have windows check for updates. The nice part of win7 is it checks for 3rd party vendor drivers on windows update. Assuming it finds your driver and installs it. Then you can run the driver install software for the latest driver for your device an install it on top.

Back to topic. The more I read about it, the more the 87 street tune seems like the tune I will be using.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:00 PM   #3
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I strongly recommend the 93P tune. You will feel the power difference as well as improve MPGs.
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Thanks for the recommendation. Here in California 91 octane is the highest grade available. My car is my daily driver and I drive approximately 35 miles one way to work, so at present I'm going with 87 octane for economical reasons.

The price of 89 octane is about 10 cents more a gallon & is the reason I went with a 91 race tune, as 91 octane is only 4 or 5 cents more a gallon. I may try a 91 performance tune down the road, but first want to dive the 87 performance a bit more to get a better feel for it. A buddy of mine who took a drive with me yesterday mentioned he could definitely tell a difference between the 87 performance & the stock tune on the highway.

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91P is probably almost identical to 93P. And if you're trying to be economical, 93 octane does get you better gas mileage for our car. You'll almost be able to make an additional 35 mile trip each tank.
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I strongly recommend the 93P tune. You will feel the power difference as well as improve MPGs.
I'm on the 87s right now, and when I fill up this weekend, will try both the 91s and the 91p tune. (I'm in the same boat as the other guy. 92 is about as high as you can get around here, so I have to go to 91). I'm anxious to feel the difference between octanes, and the difference between the 91p and the 91s.

On a side note, I'm trying to distinguish if the 87s hurts your mpgs by a tiny bit. Yeah, I've had some fun with it, but I've also nursed it too. And it seems like its a bit less mpgs. ...I wonder if "increased throttle response" is actually equivalent to a driver pressing down further on the gas when stock. That might be one explanation....
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91P is probably almost identical to 93P. And if you're trying to be economical, 93 octane does get you better gas mileage for our car. You'll almost be able to make an additional 35 mile trip each tank.
You convinced me to try the 91P tune, I just made the call to Bama for my order. You're right, might as well try it out to see for myself which I prefer. Thanks!
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Just to update you, I got 29.6mpg in mixed 70/30 highway driving using the 93P tune. The same kind of driving with using 93 octane usually gets me around 25-26mpg.
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Just to update you, I got 29.6mpg in mixed 70/30 highway driving using the 93P tune. The same kind of driving with using 93 octane usually gets me around 25-26mpg.
Just to clarify Hogasswild, those figures are comparing MPGs between running 93 octane on your car with a 93P tune, versus stock?
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Right, I am comparing 93 octane against a tune and CAI running 93 octane. I have been keeping pretty good records of what my fuel economy has been based on octane CAI and tunes. If you guys want to know I can post numbers.
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Right, I am comparing 93 octane against a tune and CAI running 93 octane. I have been keeping pretty good records of what my fuel economy has been based on octane CAI and tunes. If you guys want to know I can post numbers.

Hogasswild, could you please post fuel economy numbers. Thanks in advance for your assistance
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Okay, please bear in mind that I like to average at least five tanks of gas to kind of get a good baseline and have not gotten that many with the 93P tune. All these numbers are based on the same kind of driving, same road loop etc, so your numbers will vary. Also since I have noticed a big spike in mpgs just from going from 87 to 93 octane, I haven't tried a 87 tune yet. If you guys want me to, I will after I complete my sample for the 93P tune. I run a 360 mile commute twice a week which is how I am able to compile such large numbers lol. Based on a 75/25 highway/city mix of driving:

87 stock 26.1mpg
87 intake only 27.8mpg
93 stock 27.4mpg
93 intake only 29.1mpg
93P tune and intake 29.6mpg

So you can see a couple things here. Switching up octane from 87 to 93 alone gives you about 1.5mpg increase. Just adding an intake (I have a JLT) using either 87 or 93 octane gives you at least 1.5mpg increase and looks fairly consistent regardless of octane. The performance tune gives me another 0.5mpg, but like I said I consider that preliminary data. Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to give you all a better number.

I'm sure others may get different numbers because they drive differently, but these are my numbers based on almost 13,000 miles of data. I trust the numbers because I can count on the route I take to have consistent traffic and I set my cruise control at the same speeds for each particular stretch of road. The only real difference would be weather (temps, wind, humidity). Also, please bear in mind I have a six speed manual with 3.31 gears, so I imagine those with the 2.73 automatic will have more impressive numbers than me. However, I'm very happy with the numbers I'm getting.

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Okay, please bear in mind that I like to average at least five tanks of gas to kind of get a good baseline and have not gotten that many with the 93P tune. All these numbers are based on the same kind of driving, same road loop etc, so your numbers will vary. Also since I have noticed a big spike in mpgs just from going from 87 to 93 octane, I haven't tried a 87 tune yet. If you guys want me to, I will after I complete my sample for the 93P tune. I run a 360 mile commute twice a week which is how I am able to compile such large numbers lol. Based on a 75/25 highway/city mix of driving:

87 stock 26.1mpg
87 intake only 27.8mpg
93 stock 27.4mpg
93 intake only 29.1mpg
93P tune and intake 29.6mpg

So you can see a couple things here. Switching up octane from 87 to 93 alone gives you about 1.5mpg increase. Just adding an intake (I have a JLT) using either 87 or 93 octane gives you at least 1.5mpg increase and looks fairly consistent regardless of octane. The performance tune gives me another 0.5mpg, but like I said I consider that preliminary data. Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to give you all a better number.

I'm sure others may get different numbers because they drive differently, but these are my numbers based on almost 13,000 miles of data. I trust the numbers because I can count on the route I take to have consistent traffic and I set my cruise control at the same speeds for each particular stretch of road. The only real difference would be weather (temps, wind, humidity). Also, please bear in mind I have a six speed manual with 3.31 gears, so I imagine those with the 2.73 automatic will have more impressive numbers than me. However, I'm very happy with the numbers I'm getting.

Great data! ...I think a sample of 5 tanks per scenario is pretty darned good. If you don't mind, since you already have a great base-line, yes, perhaps a sampling of the 87s, as well as the 93s. I know I'd appreciate it. Really interesting stuff. Thanks Hogasswild.
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I'm happy to do that, it will just take time. I may try to do the 87P next, just so I can compare apples to apples. Then I would do the street tunes next. Sound okay?
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I'm happy to do that, it will just take time. I may try to do the 87P next, just so I can compare apples to apples. Then I would do the street tunes next. Sound okay?
Hey whatever works for you. I think any kind of info like this is good. and no rush on my side. ...I'm not going anywhere.
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Okay, please bear in mind that I like to average at least five tanks of gas to kind of get a good baseline and have not gotten that many with the 93P tune. All these numbers are based on the same kind of driving, same road loop etc, so your numbers will vary. Also since I have noticed a big spike in mpgs just from going from 87 to 93 octane, I haven't tried a 87 tune yet. If you guys want me to, I will after I complete my sample for the 93P tune. I run a 360 mile commute twice a week which is how I am able to compile such large numbers lol. Based on a 75/25 highway/city mix of driving:

87 stock 26.1mpg
87 intake only 27.8mpg
93 stock 27.4mpg
93 intake only 29.1mpg
93P tune and intake 29.6mpg

So you can see a couple things here. Switching up octane from 87 to 93 alone gives you about 1.5mpg increase. Just adding an intake (I have a JLT) using either 87 or 93 octane gives you at least 1.5mpg increase and looks fairly consistent regardless of octane. The performance tune gives me another 0.5mpg, but like I said I consider that preliminary data. Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to give you all a better number.

I'm sure others may get different numbers because they drive differently, but these are my numbers based on almost 13,000 miles of data. I trust the numbers because I can count on the route I take to have consistent traffic and I set my cruise control at the same speeds for each particular stretch of road. The only real difference would be weather (temps, wind, humidity). Also, please bear in mind I have a six speed manual with 3.31 gears, so I imagine those with the 2.73 automatic will have more impressive numbers than me. However, I'm very happy with the numbers I'm getting.

Excellent data. I converted your numbers to the Canadian equivalent which is liters per 100 km and I was able to find the cost break even point between 87 and 93 octane. The extra mileage per tank pays for the additional cost of the 93 octane gas. Conclusion: A more enjoyable car at 93 without additional cost.

Many thanks for your information

PS: my car is also M/T with 3.31 gears
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So just from the numbers and I run intake only, I'm better off with the price of gas sticking w/ 87 cause the cost in 93 will buy you $5 more gas staying with 87, which= to 40 miles, filling up with 93 nets you about 20 miles more Miles per tank...quick figuring...yes...no?
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That's too confusing for me. This is how I would figure it:
Based on 10,000 miles a year
87 intake @ $3.50 gal would cost $1,259 (10,000/27.8=359.7*3.5=1259)
93 intake @ $3.75 gal would cost $1,288 (10,000/29.1=343.6*3.75=1289)

So cost wise I guess the difference would be $30 over a year based on that calculation, and only 16 gallons of fuel. To me that is really negligible. I'd rather get the extra ponies for $2.50 a month and use a little less gas and help the environment lol. The other reason for me to use 93 octane is that I can make the complete trip from Raleigh to Norfolk and back without needing to fill up. We are really lucky that our cars can adjust to the different fuels where other high performance cars require 93 and some economy cars run best on 87. We get the best of both worlds.

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tree hugger lmao.....ok do yourself, or I will do myself a one time fillup at the bp on 70 & 50 hyw...105 octance 6.00 a gal...we'll see what ponies and mpg's I get then..80 $ fill up.
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Lol, I was just messing with you to see what you'd say! Who even knows if timing will advance far enough for that high of octane. Do you think it will?
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