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Old 09-05-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default 393 and 600rwhp?

How hard would it be to get 600rwhp out of a 393 with a budget of 7000 to 9000 dollars ? Or is 600rwhp asking to much for that kinda of investment
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Old 09-06-2006, 05:56 PM
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pretty tough. With that kind of horsepower, you'll need a racing block such as Dart iron eagle, World, or Ford Racing. I'd go with a 9.5 deck 4.125 bore block (351W base) and fill it with good forged internals. AFR nitrous heads and a big shot of N2O is the only chance you'll have for meeting budget since SCs and TCs will add a bunch of cost.
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Old 09-06-2006, 06:56 PM
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Default RE: 393 and 600rwhp?

thats what i was goin for i didnt want a s/c t/c motor i just want to build a 393w or 408w with lots for nitrous
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Old 09-06-2006, 08:53 PM
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Its possible. You don't have to have an aftermarket block either. The 393 would be a little less reliable than the 408 due to the rod ratio. If you are attempting this on pump gas then you will need a power adder to do it. The last 408 I built made just over 550 rwhp on pump gas and could be driven with no issues. It was a 71 block, eagle forged steel crank, H-beam rods, JE pistons, TFS High Ports, Bennett cam, TFS intake, main girdle, and a few other small parts. This was through a set of Kooks headers.
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:03 PM
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Ok cool thanks for the info and combination you were running. I was plaining on running nitrous on this car to so im sure my power expectations aren't to much. Was your block a 4 bolt main and what car/truck did you get it out of?
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2-bolt. Came from a 71-73 model Ford.
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:41 PM
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Factory 2 bolt block
393 ci.
Good cam with lots of durration and lift
AFR 205 heads
10-12psi Turbo

600rwhp no problem...................

Engine......... $5,000
Turbo ........ $3-5,000

dont forget the drive train ............ trans, clutch, bellhousing, driveshaft, differential, axles
all will need to be upgraded
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Are you guys making motors in stock 351W blocks with 600whp (700 +/- at the crank) last for any length of time? I have a 418 running 641 HP at the crank N/A on race fuel and really haven't pushed it with N20 due to the "rule of thumb" 700 HP limit of a good, seasoned 351W block...

maybe it's time fopr me to shut up and listen.
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Default RE: 393 and 600rwhp?

I wouldnt push one much past 650rwhp, walking on thin ice.

Thats a LOT of power to ask out of any production block........


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Are you guys making motors in stock 351W blocks with 600whp (700 +/- at the crank) last for any length of time? I have a 418 running 641 HP at the crank N/A on race fuel and really haven't pushed it with N20 due to the "rule of thumb" 700 HP limit of a good, seasoned 351W block...

maybe it's time fopr me to shut up and listen.
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Ok. yea, i agree. I'm going to build a Dart block over the winter and spray like crazy this spring. I figured spraying a 175 shot will do my stock block in shortly.
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