351c swap.
#1
351c swap.
Has anybody done this in a fox? I have found a decent deal on a wrecked car (86 hatch) with 2bbl cleveland in it. It was hit fairly hard in the front driverside, but the acc. motor mounts headers ect. ect. seem to be in good shape. It has a cam, alum intake, 4bbl carb and a c6 with a stall and an 8.8 with 4.10 gears. Its also got a full msd set up. Do these motors run good? The car has been sitting for about 8 years, untouched. Is it worth it, or should i go another route. I would be putting it in my 89 coupe.
800 dollar price tag.
800 dollar price tag.
#2
Here is my 8 year old combo with prices. The Aussie 2V heads are not as good as the Closed Camber 4V heads. Engine has never been refresshed yet and it still runs hard!
KB 148 Hyperutectic pistons with 13 cc dish($205.00 Summit)
Speed Pro file fit plasma rings($95.00 Summit)
ARP Rod bolts($40.00 Summit)
Moroso oil restrictor kit($10.00 Summit)
Fel Pro Gasket set($60.00 Summit)
Stock rods resized, stock crank turned .030 mains and .020 rods with block .060 over bore and tanked($300.00 local shop) Block did not have to be decked as the pistons came in at .005 below deck.
Sonic check block($160.00 local shop)
Milodon head studs($60.00 Summit)
Comp flat solid cam($148.00 Summit)
Melling edge orfice lifters($80.00 Summit)
Comp 3/8 .080 wall push rods($135.00 Summit)
Engine balancing was ($250.00 @ local shop)
Melling hi volume oil pump and ARP pump shaft($60.00 for both Summit)
Ford Racing 9 index Timing chain ($55.00 Summit)
Block is a D2 4 bolt block.
Aussie Heads that were hand ported, machined for studs and guide plates with Ferrea mid grade valves, resurfaced, valve job, guide job and oven baked, and chambers rolled back. Comp steel 10 degree locks and retainers with Ford Racing springs($80.00 for springs 130 lbs seat/450 lbs open) Heads were ($1600.00 assembled and I supplied the springs.
Comp stock ratio Aluminum roller rockers ($225.00 from head porter)
Comp 3/8 raised guide plates($40.00 ish Summit)
Clevitte 77 bearings for rod and mains($85.00 Summit)
Canton Fox chassis 7 quart oil pan, windage tray, pick up, and dip stick tube ($320.00 from Total performance)
Weiand Aluminum water pump($80.00 Summit with home made water restrictor in place of thermostat with 9/16 hole because 5/8 ran far too cold)
Parker Racing Funnel Web 2V intake($450.00 from Terry Parker)
Headman Husslers 1 7/8 primary with 3 inch collector($447.00 Summit)
750 HOM carb done to 850 by AED ($500.00 from Holcomb Motorsports)
Assembly by owner($free)
TOTAL $5485.00
Best time to date is 10.74 128 MPH in a 3250 lb car. It is 9.8 to 1 compression and runs on pump gas. Prices are from 7 years ago and this engine has been low maintenance and still runs great today.
Launch RPM with a stick is 6000 RPM and shifted at 7000 RPM more times than the doors swing open at a ***** house.
I feel it is a reasonable build considering the intake, carb, and headers set me back $1500.00
Joe
KB 148 Hyperutectic pistons with 13 cc dish($205.00 Summit)
Speed Pro file fit plasma rings($95.00 Summit)
ARP Rod bolts($40.00 Summit)
Moroso oil restrictor kit($10.00 Summit)
Fel Pro Gasket set($60.00 Summit)
Stock rods resized, stock crank turned .030 mains and .020 rods with block .060 over bore and tanked($300.00 local shop) Block did not have to be decked as the pistons came in at .005 below deck.
Sonic check block($160.00 local shop)
Milodon head studs($60.00 Summit)
Comp flat solid cam($148.00 Summit)
Melling edge orfice lifters($80.00 Summit)
Comp 3/8 .080 wall push rods($135.00 Summit)
Engine balancing was ($250.00 @ local shop)
Melling hi volume oil pump and ARP pump shaft($60.00 for both Summit)
Ford Racing 9 index Timing chain ($55.00 Summit)
Block is a D2 4 bolt block.
Aussie Heads that were hand ported, machined for studs and guide plates with Ferrea mid grade valves, resurfaced, valve job, guide job and oven baked, and chambers rolled back. Comp steel 10 degree locks and retainers with Ford Racing springs($80.00 for springs 130 lbs seat/450 lbs open) Heads were ($1600.00 assembled and I supplied the springs.
Comp stock ratio Aluminum roller rockers ($225.00 from head porter)
Comp 3/8 raised guide plates($40.00 ish Summit)
Clevitte 77 bearings for rod and mains($85.00 Summit)
Canton Fox chassis 7 quart oil pan, windage tray, pick up, and dip stick tube ($320.00 from Total performance)
Weiand Aluminum water pump($80.00 Summit with home made water restrictor in place of thermostat with 9/16 hole because 5/8 ran far too cold)
Parker Racing Funnel Web 2V intake($450.00 from Terry Parker)
Headman Husslers 1 7/8 primary with 3 inch collector($447.00 Summit)
750 HOM carb done to 850 by AED ($500.00 from Holcomb Motorsports)
Assembly by owner($free)
TOTAL $5485.00
Best time to date is 10.74 128 MPH in a 3250 lb car. It is 9.8 to 1 compression and runs on pump gas. Prices are from 7 years ago and this engine has been low maintenance and still runs great today.
Launch RPM with a stick is 6000 RPM and shifted at 7000 RPM more times than the doors swing open at a ***** house.
I feel it is a reasonable build considering the intake, carb, and headers set me back $1500.00
Joe
#3
Here is the car. 89 lx 4 banger.
Here is the donor. 85 gt with a 351 Cleveland, 2bbl heads, unknown cam and internals, weiand x-cellerator intake, holley 750 carb, hedman long tubes, MSD pro-billet distributor with 6al box and blaster coil, "worked" over c6 with stall, 8.8 rear end with 4.10 gears and southside lowers. Oh, and it has the wrecked all to hell mod.
I'm gonna try to start it in the car to make sure its in decent running order, so i'll know if i need to some dis-assembly and re-freshing before i drop it in my car. I'm gonna cross my fingers, my heart, stick a needle in my eye and tie my ***** in a knot and hope i don't have to re-build it.
Here is the donor. 85 gt with a 351 Cleveland, 2bbl heads, unknown cam and internals, weiand x-cellerator intake, holley 750 carb, hedman long tubes, MSD pro-billet distributor with 6al box and blaster coil, "worked" over c6 with stall, 8.8 rear end with 4.10 gears and southside lowers. Oh, and it has the wrecked all to hell mod.
I'm gonna try to start it in the car to make sure its in decent running order, so i'll know if i need to some dis-assembly and re-freshing before i drop it in my car. I'm gonna cross my fingers, my heart, stick a needle in my eye and tie my ***** in a knot and hope i don't have to re-build it.
#6
Here is a little update:
I finally got the motor out and tore down to a short block. It has all factory looking internals, but they look new. It has flat top pistons and "double" valve springs, so if i decide to put a bigger cam in it, hopefully the springs will work. Anybody have any guess at what the stall is just by looking at it? I didn't see the rpm stamped on it anywhere (idk if they even do that).
I finally got the motor out and tore down to a short block. It has all factory looking internals, but they look new. It has flat top pistons and "double" valve springs, so if i decide to put a bigger cam in it, hopefully the springs will work. Anybody have any guess at what the stall is just by looking at it? I didn't see the rpm stamped on it anywhere (idk if they even do that).
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