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So what's the price difference? I know the Paxton sells for $4499.99 and it comes with an intercooler. What gains in hp will we get?
What about the x-charger? Those of you with them please chime in.
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So what's the price difference? I know the Paxton sells for $4499.99 and it comes with an intercooler. What gains in hp will we get?
What about the x-charger? Those of you with them please chime in.
It's been proven by at least two different comparison threads which are backed up by dozens of people that intercooled centri superchargers are worse in every measurable and conceivable way to intercooled twin screw superchargers in applications for the mustang.
The x-charger should put out 340 hp at the crank though.
Now the x-charger isn't intercooled at that price range but the centri is. Based in intricately discussing the x-charger kit with the designer it's one of the best superchargers I've seen designed for the street. The paxton on the other hand looks like it was pulled out of some one's ass. It's shoddy design isn't that impressive compared to the v8 centris and even the Vortech kit for a Mazda3 looks better.
I wouldn't be surprised by looking at the ducting that the car makes even less than 10% less hp on the low end which is what paxton kits do with the v8's against twin screws, and it's not going to be as drivable as the x-charger which despite is high marks for power is primarily designed to be a safe and easy to live with setup.
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It's been proven by at least two different comparison threads which are backed up by dozens of people that intercooled centri superchargers are worse in every measurable and conceivable way to intercooled twin screw superchargers in applications for the mustang.
The x-charger should put out 340 hp at the crank though.
Now the x-charger isn't intercooled at that price range but the centri is. Based in intricately discussing the x-charger kit with the designer it's one of the best superchargers I've seen designed for the street. The paxton on the other hand looks like it was pulled out of some one's ass. It's shoddy design isn't that impressive compared to the v8 centris and even the Vortech kit for a Mazda3 looks better.
I wouldn't be surprised by looking at the ducting that the car makes even less than 10% less hp on the low end which is what paxton kits do with the v8's against twin screws, and it's not going to be as drivable as the x-charger which despite is high marks for power is primarily designed to be a safe and easy to live with setup.
VMP tunning has an 05 V6 with Vortech that dynoed at 395hp at the wheels (16psi ).
Good luck getting this with the X charger
I rode in the car... the ponies are there.
That car is a DD during the week and goes to the track on weekends.
It still has the stock engine.
Centris work well for DD if they're tune properly (the Vortech does anyway)
To the OP... You don't have to go radical with a Vortech system if you were to get one.
10 psi would give you about 300hp at the wheels while being very reliable.
The 4.0 mill has stronger internals than he 4.6 V8. That helps!
PM Rygen and anyone else that has a proven record with the V6 and you'll get the best advices on that subject...
seems to me that the X shouldnt be judged for the power output compared to the other SC's but on its different characteristics. really depends what you want out of your car. do i want the MOST power i can get or do i just want good solid competitive power with the characteristics i prefer? thats an important decision that needs to be made before laying down the cash.
He was also extremely impressed with the linier torque curve of the X-Charger. He said that the Paxton / Vortex they use is tuned extremely aggressive and puts out 350RWHP but the power and torque don't even begin to come on as nice as the X-Charger.
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VMP tunning has an 05 V6 with Vortech that dynoed at 395hp at the wheels (16psi ).
Good luck getting this with the X charger
I rode in the car... the ponies are there.
That car is a DD during the week and goes to the track on weekends.
It still has the stock engine.
Centris work well for DD if they're tune properly (the Vortech does anyway)
To the OP... You don't have to go radical with a Vortech system if you were to get one.
10 psi would give you about 300hp at the wheels while being very reliable.
The 4.0 mill has stronger internals than he 4.6 V8. That helps!
PM Rygen and anyone else that has a proven record with the V6 and you'll get the best advices on that subject...
I can't find that despite trying so I'll assume that was with a car that had every other mod possible.
The same can be said about the x-charger if you combined the gains proven from the intercooler with the fastest ever 15 PSI x-charger cars which had everything too, doing that you get 400 RWHP.
Either way both of these options are well out of his price range but the 400 RWHP x-charger would consistently beat the vortech because even if it's RWHP number were way higher, the cetri system is so peaky that it's dyno numbers are a poor comparison to anything else because you're never going to use 85% of that. This is a pretty standard rule.
What I'm trying to say is that even though the x-charger isn't some maximum horsepower monger, it's still going to be faster being significantly under and and be very competetive.
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Get a Paxton if you want power for your money. X is good if you want extra power for your V6 but it's not going to be faster than the GT. For the price and HP gain, Paxton but for extra power for you 6 then get an X-charger.
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What I'm trying to say is that even though the x-charger isn't some maximum horsepower monger, it's still going to be faster being significantly under and and be very competetive.
Like mentioned before, the x-charger will come on sooner on torque...
That's the caracteristic of the screw type.
I sure am not an expert on all this, so I'm not going to argue with anyone here.
I just know the basic principles, that's about it.
If it's any help, the fastest supercharged 4.0s seems to be the Vortech cars...
It doesn't really matter, because the OP isn't looking for a maximum HP, if not, she would have gotten a V8 to begin with I assume...
I believe the Vortech/Paxton and X-Charger with conservative boost, would make her happy.
Get a Paxton if you want power for your money. X is good if you want extra power for your V6 but it's not going to be faster than the GT. For the price and HP gain, Paxton but for extra power for you 6 then get an X-charger.
Errr, it doesn't take a lot of boost on a sixxer to smoke a stock GT with any brand superchargers...
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