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VERY rough ride. Is it normal?

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Old 09-07-2013, 10:49 PM   #1
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Question VERY rough ride. Is it normal?

I have an '07 V6 Automatic PP Coupe that I bought earlier this year (I'm the 2nd owner). It has ~105,000 KM on it (about 60K miles).

While the car itself is in perfect condition, everything works fantastically, the ride is so awful that I feel like when I go over a bump or turn into a driveway that the entire car is going to break into pieces. It's all over the place, bounces up and down, I have to hold on to the steering wheel with both hands otherwise the car would go in I don't know which direction.

I know this is a RWD car and that it's known that the rear will not always follow the front, but this is scary. Been this way since day 1 and I'm wondering, is this 'normal' for a Mustang, and if not, what potentially could be the cause of the issue?

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Old 09-08-2013, 12:50 AM   #2
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normal.
the technology on these cars is 1960's

i drive many cars and vans in my job..the mustang handles and drives like a sack of $****e compaired to say a bmw..
they are crude cheaply made cars in a pretty frock..

the rear axle is a joke tbh..
the new stang is gonna be the muts nuts though i rekon.
p's u rekon your coupe handles like crap?
go drive a vert lol..dangerous in fact...
without doubt the worst handling car i have EVER driven..so bad i had to sell it
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:16 AM   #3
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Rudolph, sounds like you LOVE your Mustang! LOL LOL LOL FWIW, I never would expect a Mustang to drive like a BMW. LOL

Seriously though, does anyone else agree with him? Is there any point in having suspension checked? How about 'softer' tires like Michelins, for example? I hate the way it drives and will lose a lot of $$ if I have to sell it now.

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Old 09-08-2013, 07:35 AM   #4
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20 inch wheels destroy the ride for one..
18 max i rekon.

my company nissan van handles better then me gt...
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:40 AM   #5
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Notwithstanding Rudolph's opinion, mine is that it is not normal. I don't have those issues with my '06. While I'll grant you that the front suspension is stiff, it was designed that way to accommodate how Ford anticipated Mustang owners would drive a front heavy car with a low clearance. Owning a '68 coupe myself, I can tell you that the S197's are clearly nowhere close to 1960's technology.

You obviously have some front suspension issues that need to be looked at.
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I would check into suspension issues like mentioned, don't listed to the jackass with the inferiority complex in this thread. The car shouldn't feel like its going to fall apart.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:57 AM   #7
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No, it shouldn't feel that way, even with the Top Gear derived opinion that an SRA is inferior. It may be for getting the power down on bumpy roads and harder turns, but you shouldn't be feeling like it is bumping around all over the place.

First does it have the stock wheels/tires? Next up, it could be that your shocks and springs are bad. I know that the regular V6 didn't come with a rear sway bar, if yours doesn't have one, that may help.

Mine is at just under 90,000 miles, and it could probably do with new shocks and struts.
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Struts I would say.
I am just starting to notice this in mine very slightly.
(110K miles) When you take your old ones off and see that you can compress them down and they do not come back up. Then try to do it with the new set. You will get why it feels like a train wreck when you hit that bump going into your driveway. Like I said, I just started noticing it today going over a few speed bumps. "Struts time" I figured. but what you need to do to start with is to have a front end shop that knows what they are doing and you can trust (hard to find these days, good thing for me I use to be one and have my own alignment machine)to give your front end a good inspection.
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Thanks guys, I was hoping that Rudolph's answer wasn't correct and that he's just a disgruntled owner for whatever reason. Question: since I am not mechanically inclined whatsoever, is this something that any mechanic, Ford- or non-Ford can diagnose and fix, or should I bring it to dealership only? If it turns out that it's a struts/shocks issue, how much can I expect to have to pay? Reason I'm asking: I won the ford.ca $500 gift card earlier this year (YAY!) and it's good for any service/accessory, etc. and I'm wondering if it would cover diagnosis and new parts and labor, or can I expect to pay thousands? I also have the ESP Premium (best, most expensive) from Ford, is the suspension covered (I don't have the contract with me at the moment)? This is really scary to tell you the truth. If I didn't love the rest of the car, I wouldn't be so upset.
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20 inch wheels destroy the ride for one..
18 max i rekon.

my company nissan van handles better then me gt...
No I have the 17" Pony Package rims/wheels.

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Struts I would say.
I am just starting to notice this in mine very slightly.
(110K miles) When you take your old ones off and see that you can compress them down and they do not come back up. Then try to do it with the new set. You will get why it feels like a train wreck when you hit that bump going into your driveway. Like I said, I just started noticing it today going over a few speed bumps. "Struts time" I figured. but what you need to do to start with is to have a front end shop that knows what they are doing and you can trust (hard to find these days, good thing for me I use to be one and have my own alignment machine)to give your front end a good inspection.
LOL re: train wreck. Precisely the feeling. In the meantime is it safe to drive the car in this condition?
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Have you noticed any noises coming from the front or rear like metal scraping? And has the steering been getting increasingly harder to turn the more you drive it? Just curious because if you answered yes to either of these questions or to both, then it's possible that your ball joints are giving out. I've got an 01 mustang and just a few months ago, I was having those issues, and as I pulled out of the driveway, my driver-side ball joint snapped and my wheel's axle hit the ground and my car had to be put up on a tow-truck to be taken for repair. That was not fun at all.

No I don't know how much shocks/struts would be, but I think your ESP should cover some if not all of the costs for you. It would be something you should call the dealer and ask them if it is covered or not.
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... I think your ESP should cover some if not all of the costs for you...
I'll have what YOU'RE smokin'...

And if you CAN get the dealership to cover it on your ESP, then have them also replace the tires, brakes, wiper blades, battery, light bulbs and any other "normal wear" item that you can think of. I'll be on my knees bowing since no dealer in their right mind would replace suspension components for free at 60k miles unless it was related to an obvious defect.
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Spoke to dealership. ESP that I purchased lists suspension, including struts and shocks as covered under my (Premium, most expensive) plan. The other stuff is ok, i.e. wipers, brakes, battery, lights, etc. They are bending over backwards to make this right, I really respect them for this, since it is an older car and had had one accident (known to me when I bought it). This is partially my fault for not having had it inspected by a 3rd party before delivery, but also it may be up to them to rectify since it had to pass a safety and certification check in order to be registered with the Ontario ministry. I'll let you know.

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Good luck with the ESP and dealership.
You might want to check TSB's - Technical Service Bulletins.
My 07 PP needed new upper strut mounts. It thunked going over bumps.
And my struts and shocks were replaced under warranty due to leakage.
There is a TSB for the upper strut mounts and some other stuff.
Not that the upper strut mounts make the steering wheel shake, but
if dealership will fix under the ESP then might as well go for it.
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The bulletin is TSB 07-18-2. A Google search will bring up the actual document on several different forums.
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We have a section for ALL Mustang related TSB's....

It's under the Articles/Mustang TSB selection at the top of the Mustang Forums page....
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You guys (gals?) are AWESOME!

I've found the TSB and printed it out, will be armed and ready for my visit to the dealership tonight, and I really, really hope this is the issue.

I'll update this thread over the weekend.

MANY thanks.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:31 PM   #19
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Ford dealership says it's front tie rod, driveshaft and rear stabilizer bar. I gave them a copy of the TSB but he says it's not the struts. There are also other things but that's all I remember for the moment.

Now it turns out that even though my P&S agreement says FORD WARRANTY on it, they actually didn't buy it from Ford, they put through a 3rd party ("TriCare") contract for which I have no paperwork, coverage details, policy #, certificate, etc.

I had a call from their appraiser this morning and waited for their decision on whether they'll cover this (from what I was told by the dealership, it's about a $1600 CA job, parts and labor).

After over 6 hours waiting for the decision, the repairs (including a rental car until it's ready) will be covered 100% (deductible waived as well).

Although this is an issue that should have been covered prior to delivery of the vehicle (during "safety inspection"), I am very happy with the service I received and now it's up to them to make good on the repairs.

P.S. I also have to give the dealership a thumbs-up for providing me with a brand new loaner with no time limits or mileage limits (just fill tank to same level before returning), even prior to knowing if these repairs would be covered by whichever warranty I had. It's sometimes little things like this that make me feel a little bit better about giving someone my hard-earned dollars.

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Thank you for following up with us. All too often, we offer advise (right or wrong) and never hear the final result.
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