p0511 code thrown... help diagnostics!!

[cisurfer]

this is dubarado, I am to lazy to sign out and log on as myself... but my 04 GT is throwing the p0511 code now, after replacing the IAC valve with a brand new one from ford... any ideas of what to check next??? here is what the mike's 03 stang thingy site said: P0511 - Idle Air Control Circuit Malfunction top The PCM attempts to control engine speed during KOER self-test. The test fails when the desired rpm could not be reached or controlled during the self-test. * IAC circuit open * VPWR to IAC solenoid open * IAC circuit shorted to PWR * Damaged IAC valve * Damaged PCM The IAC solenoid resistance is from 6 to 13 ohms. Monitor IAC PID duty cycle and/or voltage.

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[dubarado]

anybody? I put the stock TB back on with the original TPS attached to it... it is still idling like crap... I really don't know what to do... i've unplugged the IAC, TPS and both when running, nothing changed on the idling... think it could be an electrical problem?

[cliffyk]

If you have not done so, then disconnect the battery for 5-7 minutes to cleat the KAM, this will make the PCM relearn the idle air trim values--let it idle for 15 minutes after resetting the KAM.

This is from the '03 shop manual (5-speed tranny models only use the AC On/Off adaptation modes):


If resetting the KAM does not correct the idle then you must have an electrical problem that needs to be tracked down.

[WhiteFoxGT]

If the KAM reset doesnt work, try following this.. Straight from Ford

On Board Diagnostics PCED KE: Idle Air Control (IAC) Valve
KE: Introduction

KE1 IDLE CONCERNS OR STALLS: RUN THE KOER SELF-TEST AND OUTPUT THE CMDTCS

• Note: The Symptom Charts indicate there was no change in idle quality when the IAC valve was disconnected.
• CHECK the air inlet for plugging or a stuck IAC pintle.
  • Repair as necessary.
• Retrieve all continuous memory DTCs.
• Carry out the KOER self-test.
• If unable to carry out the KOER self-test, go to the next diagnostic step.

Are any of the following DTCs present: P0505, P0511 or P0506?
Yes No Key in OFF position.

GO to KE2 . The IAC system is OK. Return to Section 3, Symptom Charts.

KE2 DTCS P0505, P0506, P0511, P1504 OR P1507: (OR STARTS ONLY AT PART THROTTLE) CHECK THE VPWR VOLTAGE TO THE IAC VALVE

• Note: If EGR DTC P0402 was output during the self-test, diagnose it first before continuing with this pinpoint test.
• IAC Actuator connector disconnected.
• Key in ON position.
• Measure the voltage between:
  
  ( + ) IAC Actuator Connector, Harness Side ( - ) Vehicle Battery VPWR - Pin 1 Negative terminal

Is the voltage greater than 10.5 V?
Yes No Key in OFF position.

GO to KE3 . Key in OFF position. REPAIR the open circuit.

KE3 CHECK THE RESISTANCE OF IAC VALVE

• IAC Actuator connector disconnected.
• Measure the resistance between:
  
  ( + ) IAC Actuator Connector, Component Side ( - ) IAC Actuator Connector, Component Side IAC - Pin 2 VPWR - Pin 1

Is the resistance between 6 ohms - 15 ohms?
Yes No GO to KE4 . INSTALL a new IAC Valve.

KE4 CHECK THE IAC VALVE FOR AN INTERNAL SHORT TO THE IAC CASE

• Measure the resistance between:
  
  ( + ) IAC Actuator Connector, Component Side ( - ) IAC Actuator Connector, Component Side IAC - Pin 2 IAC Case

Is the resistance greater than 10K ohms?
Yes No GO to KE5 . INSTALL a new IAC actuator.


KE5 CHECK THE AIR INLET FOR PLUGGING OR A STUCK IAC PINTLE

• INSPECT the entire intake air system for debris, blockage or other damage.
• Remove and inspect the IAC valve and check the pintle movement. Check the air tubes (if equipped) for blockage or damage.
• Remove and inspect the air cleaner element for excessive dirt.

Is the IAC valve and intake air system OK?
Yes No Restore the inlet air system.

GO to KE6 . INSTALL a new IAC valve, or REPAIR the air inlet as necessary.


KE6 CHECK FOR INLET AIR LEAKS

• Key on engine running.
• With the engine running at idle, listen for vacuum leaks.
• INSPECT the entire air intake system from the mass air flow (MAF) sensor to the intake manifold for leaks such as:
• Damaged or loose IAC air tubes.
• Cracked or punctured intake air tube.
• Loose intake air tube at the air cleaner housing or throttle body.
• IAC valve or gasket seal.
• EGR valve gasket seal.
• Vacuum supply connector and hose.
• PCV valve, connectors and hoses.

Are any leaks detected in the above areas?
Yes No Key in OFF position.

Repair as necessary. Key in OFF position.

GO to KE7 .

KE7 CHECK THE IAC CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN IN THE HARNESS

• Note: REFER to the PCM connector pin numbers in the beginning of this pinpoint test.
• IAC Actuator connector disconnected.
• PCM connector disconnected.
• Measure the resistance between:
  
  ( + ) IAC Actuator Connector, Harness Side ( - ) PCM Connector, Harness Side IAC - Pin 2 IAC

Is the resistance less than 5 ohms?
Yes No GO to KE8 . REPAIR the open circuit.

KE8 CHECK THE IAC CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO POWER IN THE HARNESS

• Key in ON position.
• Measure the voltage between:
  
  ( + ) PCM Connector, Harness Side ( - ) Vehicle Battery IAC Negative terminal

Is the voltage less than 1 V?
Yes No Key in OFF position.

GO to KE9 . Key in OFF position. REPAIR the short circuit.

KE9 CHECK THE IAC CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND IN THE HARNESS

• Diagnostic tool connector disconnected.
• Measure the resistance between:
  
  ( + ) PCM Connector, Harness Side ( - ) IAC Ground

Is the resistance greater than 10K ohms?
Yes No GO to KE10 . REPAIR the short circuit.

KE10 VERIFY THE DTC

Is DTC P0511 or P1504 present in continuous memory or from the KOER self-test?
Yes No INSTALL a new PCM. GO to KE11 .

KE11 CHECK THE IAC SIGNAL FROM THE PCM

• PCM connector connected.
• IAC Actuator connector connected. Note: If stalling occurs, place a shim under the hard stop screw to maintain idle conditions.
• Key on engine running.
• Access the PCM and monitor the RPM PID.
• Access the PCM and monitor the IAC PID.
• With the engine at normal operating temperature, closed throttle and all accessories off, the IAC duty cycle should be between approximately 22% and 65%.
• Slowly increase the engine speed to 3,000 RPM and return to closed throttle. (Note: If closed throttle RPM is significantly higher than normal, ignore this step).

Is the duty cycle between 22% - 65%?
Yes No GO to KE12 . Key in OFF position. INSTALL a new IAC actuator.


KE12 VERIFY THE DTC

Is DTC P0506, P0511, P1504 or P1507 present in continuous memory or from the self-test?
Yes No GO to KE18 . Key in OFF position.

INSPECT the throttle body for damage. REPAIR as necessary. If OK, INSTALL a new IAC actuator.

RESET the keep alive memory (KAM). REFER to Section 2, Resetting The Keep Alive Memory (KAM).


KE13 DTCS P0507 OR P1506: CHECK FOR INLET AIR LEAKS

• Key on engine running.
• With the engine running at idle, listen for vacuum leaks.
• INSPECT the entire air intake system from the mass air flow (MAF) sensor to the intake manifold for leaks such as:
• Damaged or loose IAC air tubes.
• Cracked or punctured intake air tube.
• Loose intake air tube at the air cleaner housing or throttle body.
• IAC valve or gasket seal.
• EGR valve gasket seal.
• Vacuum supply connector and hose.
• PCV valve, connectors and hoses.

Are any leaks detected in the above areas?
Yes No Key in OFF position.

Repair as necessary. Key in OFF position.

GO to KE14 .


KE14 CHECK THE EVAP SYSTEM FOR A STUCK OPEN VALVE

• Disconnect the hoses at the EVAP canister purge valve or the VMV.
• Connect a hand vacuum pump at the fuel vapor-to-EVAP canister port on the EVAP canister purge valve (VMV).
  
• Apply 53 kPa (16 in-Hg) of vacuum to the EVAP canister purge valve (VMV).

Does the EVAP canister purge valve (VMV) hold a vacuum for at least 20 seconds?
Yes No Reconnect all hoses.

GO to KE15 . INSTALL a new EVAPCP valve.


KE15 CHECK THE IAC VALVE FOR CORRECT FUNCTION

• Key on engine running.
• Bring the engine to normal operating temperature.
• Transmission in PARK or NEUTRAL.
• Disconnect the IAC Valve.

Does the RPM drop or the engine stall?
Yes No Key in OFF position.

GO to KE16 . Key in OFF position.

INSPECT the throttle body for damage. REPAIR as necessary. If OK, INSTALL a new IAC actuator.

RESET the keep alive memory (KAM). REFER to Section 2, Resetting The Keep Alive Memory (KAM).


KE16 CHECK THE IAC CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND IN THE HARNESS

• Note: REFER to the PCM connector pin numbers in the beginning of this pinpoint test.
• Diagnostic tool connector disconnected.
• PCM connector disconnected.
• Measure the resistance between:
  
  ( + ) PCM Connector, Harness Side ( - ) Vehicle Battery IAC Negative terminal

Is the resistance greater than 10K ohms?
Yes No GO to KE17 . REPAIR the short circuit to GND.


KE17 VERIFY THE SYMPTOM

Is a fast idle symptom currently present?
Yes No INSTALL a new PCM. GO to KE18 .


KE18 CHECK THE IAC SYSTEM FOR AN INTERMITTENT OPEN OR SHORT

• PCM connector connected.
• Key on engine running.
• Access the PCM and monitor the IAC and RPM PIDs.
• With the engine at normal operating temperature, closed throttle and all accessories off, the IAC duty cycle should be between approximately 22% and 65%.
• Observe the PIDs while completing the following at idle:
  • Lightly tap on the and wiggle the harness connector to simulate road shock.
  • Grasp the vehicle harness closest to the IAC valve. Shake and bend a small section of the harness from the IAC to the dash panel and from the dash panel to the PCM.

Do the IAC or RPM PIDs suddenly change in value, indicating a fault?
Yes No Key in OFF position.

ISOLATE the fault and REPAIR as necessary. Key in OFF position.

GO to KE19 .


KE19 VERIFY THE SYMPTOM

Is an idle quality, starting or stalling symptom currently present?
Yes No INSTALL a new IAC actuator. Concern is elsewhere. RETURN to Section 3 , Symptom Charts for further direction.

[dubarado]

Ok... So I "fixed" the issue. I was fed up earlier and started checking hoses. As I pull the one off my iac I notice that there is a something sticking out of it. Sure enough it is a rag prolly stuffed in there when my car was in the body shop. I pull it out plug it back on and start the car WHAOOMMMMm. Idles fine !!!

[StockD15b]

Originally Posted by dubarado

Ok... So I "fixed" the issue. I was fed up earlier and started checking hoses. As I pull the one off my iac I notice that there is a something sticking out of it. Sure enough it is a rag prolly stuffed in there when my car was in the body shop. I pull it out plug it back on and start the car WHAOOMMMMm. Idles fine !!!

i was going to advice to check for foreign objects, good job!

[dubarado]

dude... i couldn't believe it when i saw it... i guess they really took precautions about getting stuff in the motor to even have a towel wedged in there!!! haha... I took the new IAC back to ford today too, but they're mailing me a check because I paid for it with cash and they can't return it? idk.... and now I need to put my 70mm TB back on because it wasn't a TPS issue!


ugh... so funny that that was the issue.... but thankfully it was just that and not something serious!