Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
#11
RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
you dont need to tune for a flywheel... but you will put down more power once its on... it wont increase the hp at the crank... but you will lose drivetrain loss and get more at the wheels which is where you want it.
#13
RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
ORIGINAL: GreyStang
Flywheel weight DOESN'T affect horsepower. True, it would take more power to GET a flywheel that weighs 500lbs up to a certain speed, but once it is at that speed then it doesn't take any more or less power to KEEP it at that speed than would a 1 lb flywheel, so long as the physical dimensions are about the same.
Flywheel weight DOESN'T affect horsepower. True, it would take more power to GET a flywheel that weighs 500lbs up to a certain speed, but once it is at that speed then it doesn't take any more or less power to KEEP it at that speed than would a 1 lb flywheel, so long as the physical dimensions are about the same.
#14
RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
there is power and torque loss in the drivetrain as the engine has to overcome the rotational inertia of all items in the drivetrain. so theoretically, a lighter flywheel means less rotational intertia which means more torque and hp transferred to the rear wheels. so theoretically you might see slightly higher dyno numbers after the flywheel install than before. but honestly I expect the overall impact to be minimal (a few hp?).
prior posters are correct. adding the lighter flywheel shouldn't affect the optimal fuel tables or ignition timing in the tune.
net, net your true rwhp (after the flywheel) might be a few ponies higher than what the dyno says
prior posters are correct. adding the lighter flywheel shouldn't affect the optimal fuel tables or ignition timing in the tune.
net, net your true rwhp (after the flywheel) might be a few ponies higher than what the dyno says
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RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
Understood...
I would think that Torque would be the only Force affected by swapping a Lightweight Flywheel, not so much HP...
Then again, most Dyno's don't dictate Torque, they calculate it based off of HP, and Power curve plus Air/Fuel, etc...
JT
I would think that Torque would be the only Force affected by swapping a Lightweight Flywheel, not so much HP...
Then again, most Dyno's don't dictate Torque, they calculate it based off of HP, and Power curve plus Air/Fuel, etc...
JT
#16
RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
Will i actually feel the difference of the flywheel change? I could feel changes in most of my other performance enhancements, even the intake spacer. Just wondering what to expect.
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RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
ORIGINAL: GodAmGT00
Understood...
I would think that Torque would be the only Force affected by swapping a Lightweight Flywheel, not so much HP...
Then again, most Dyno's don't dictate Torque, they calculate it based off of HP, and Power curve plus Air/Fuel, etc...
JT
Understood...
I would think that Torque would be the only Force affected by swapping a Lightweight Flywheel, not so much HP...
Then again, most Dyno's don't dictate Torque, they calculate it based off of HP, and Power curve plus Air/Fuel, etc...
JT
JT, i think you are right for load dyno's (e.g., mustang). they directly measure work over time (hp) and then back into torque. but I think that inertial dyno's directly measure acceleration (drum rotation over time) and then backcalculate into hp with mass and time and then backcalculate into torque. just a technicality, and I may not even be right.
regarding whether torque or hp is affected, since hp = torque*rpm/5252 you affect torque, you affect hp and vice versa.
#18
RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
honestly, I aint know.
what does mfgr state about hp/trq gains if any?
How much weight are you saving in the flywheel?
my a$$dyno can't detect anything lower than about 10-15hp, and I doubt you'd get anything more than that (although i'd take an extra 10-15 every chance I could)
what does mfgr state about hp/trq gains if any?
How much weight are you saving in the flywheel?
my a$$dyno can't detect anything lower than about 10-15hp, and I doubt you'd get anything more than that (although i'd take an extra 10-15 every chance I could)
#19
RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
I'm not sure about weight savings, i've heard amounts anywhere between 8-13 lbs, so i am gonna take the average and say 10-11. And i haven't ever seen anyone talk about hp gains from flywheels. I find it interesting and that is why i started this whole thing!
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RE: Will Flywheel effect dynotune?
ORIGINAL: paco_pony
JT, i think you are right for load dyno's (e.g., mustang). they directly measure work over time (hp) and then back into torque. but I think that inertial dyno's directly measure acceleration (drum rotation over time) and then backcalculate into hp with mass and time and then backcalculate into torque. just a technicality, and I may not even be right.
regarding whether torque or hp is affected, since hp = torque*rpm/5252 you affect torque, you affect hp and vice versa.
JT, i think you are right for load dyno's (e.g., mustang). they directly measure work over time (hp) and then back into torque. but I think that inertial dyno's directly measure acceleration (drum rotation over time) and then backcalculate into hp with mass and time and then backcalculate into torque. just a technicality, and I may not even be right.
regarding whether torque or hp is affected, since hp = torque*rpm/5252 you affect torque, you affect hp and vice versa.
That Rocks!!! Thanks for that clarification.. I couldn't remember the equation for figuring out HP vs. TQ.. I'm no good at Physics anyway, so I'm not even going to bother trying to figure out load differences from the flywheel to the aluminum piece...
There's gotta be a little bit of a deviation though for TQ, but aren't the 2 forces Linear??
JT
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