Which looks better mach 1 or cobra
10-31-2006, 01:48 PM
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RE: Which looks better mach 1 or cobra
At first, I thought the Mach I won hands down without a doubt. The shaker on top, the hood, the offset of colors... its a very badass looking car. Now that I've seen more and more cobra's, I've changed my tune a lil. The cobra just looks like a street race car. Which to me is awesome. I like the front bumper much more on the cobra than the Mach. Just looking on the rear bumper and seeing the "COBRA" back there just gives me chills when I see it. The cobra wins in my book... but we had a really old poll that was brought back to life not long ago comparing the Mach I, Cobra, Saleen, and Rousch tho.
10-31-2006, 01:52 PM
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RE: Which looks better mach 1 or cobra
well depends on the year of the cobra. 99,01 cobras i think dont look as good as the mach 1's. But 03-04 cobras just look badazz. so in conclusion
99,01 cobra < 03-04 Mach 1 < 03-04 Cobra
99,01 cobra < 03-04 Mach 1 < 03-04 Cobra
10-31-2006, 02:13 PM
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RE: Which looks better mach 1 or cobra
Ok what i got from this paragraph below is that they only made mach 1's in 03/04. They only made bullitt mustangs in 01, and that the 03/04 motor is identical to the 99/01 cobra engines minus the heads from the 03/04 cobras. Confusing.
Mach 1 reborn
"During the 1990's, the preeminant performance Mustang was the SVT Cobra. Following the departure of the Fox chassis in 1993 and the arrival of the SN-95 in 1994, Ford also sought to eliminate the 302. (Now termed in its metric 5.0 Liters) Drawing on its newly developed OHC architecture engines known as Modular motors, SVT created the 1996 and up Cobra around several variations of the 32 valve, all aluminium 4.6 Liter V-8. Below the SVT in performance was only the GT marque, reintroduced in 1982 with the 302 HO "5.0", later turning to the 16 Valve SOHC V-8 in 1996. While keeping pace with GM competition at speed, the sales on the new SN-95 style cars skyrocketed and by 2002, Ford Mustang sales topped both Firebird and Camaro sales combined. With GM's withdrawl from the "Pony Car wars" in 2002, Ford had a free hand at the whole market but nontheless created argueably the fastest stock Mustang of all (up until that time), the Supercharged 2003-2004 SVT Cobra. But concerns over a price gap between the GT and Cobra, as well as interest in keeping sales up before the release of the all new S197 Mustang, prompted the creation of two unique mid-range performance models. The 2001 "Bullitt" GT and the 2003 & 2004 Mach 1"
"Following the stir caused by the retro 2001 "Bullitt" (A lightly modified 2001 GT, named for the famed chase Mustang driven by Steve McQueen in the movie "Bullitt") Ford saw the value of heritage in the Mustang name and as a follow up, sought to revive the Mach 1 name. While similar to the Bullitt in the use of the Cobra's 13" Brembo front brakes and unique Tokico gas shocks, as well as lower and stiffer springs, the Mach 1 recieved a huge performance gain over the base GT in the form of a totally unique variant of the DOHC, 32 valve 4.6 Liter Modular V-8. Commonly known by Mach 1 owners as an "R" code DOHC,(for the unique VIN engine R code) this all-aluminium engine features the same high flow heads as the 2003-04 SVT Cobras, Australian Boss 260/290 (see Barra engine), Lincoln Aviator and Mercury Marauders, but has intake cams drawn from Ford's 5.4 Liter "Triton" V-8 to provide better low end torque. While on paper the 305(228kW) horsepower seems a loss when compared to the 1999 & 2001 SVT Cobras of a similar engine running 320hp(239kW), in practice the motor produced nearly identical power with more torque, some 320 claimed lb/ft (430NM), occuring at a much lower 4,000 rpms. Likewise, the Mach 1 had 10.1:1 compression as compared to the 99 & 02 Cobra's 9.85:1 and the Mach 1 had an aluminium block unique from the SVT aluminium blocks. The Mach 1 also featured the high redline of 6,800 rpms (5-speed cars) and fuel cut off at 7,000. Further differences included the use of Ford's 8.8 inch solid rear axle with a 3.55 final ratio (As opposed to SVT's Independant Rear Suspension) and the availability of a 4 speed automatic in addition to the Tremec sourced 5 speed manual. Factory steel "Box" cross section subframe connectors we also added to increase chassis stregth for both the added handling and to deal with the prodigious torque over the stock GT. Style wise, the Mach 1 was very distict from other Mustangs as it drew heavily from the 1970 Mach 1. In addition to the matte black spoiler and hood stripe, flat black chin spoiler, Mach 1 rocker panel stripes and Mach 1 badging on the rear, there were also faux Magnum 500 polished 17x8 alloy wheels. A retro themed interior was included with well bolstered dark grey leather seats featuring 70's style "Comfort Weave" textures, a 1970's style gauge cluster, a machined aluminium shift ball, aluminium pedals and the sole option to add aluminium look bezels on the dash. The most noticable difference visually from other Mustangs was the bulging hood with cutt-out and the return of a semi-legitimate "Shaker Hood". While physically identical in placement and function (The scoop is said to be built on the same tooling as the 1970 Mach 1) it only provides a portion of air to the motor routing to the air box ahead of the MAF. It does function well as a cold air "snorkle" and a partial Ram Air at speed. For 2004, the only change were the ratings for the motor from 305hp(228kW) to 310hp(232kW) for the manual and 308(230kW) for the auto cars, and a bump in torque from 320lb. ft.(430NM) to 335lb.ft. (454NM). 2004 Mach 1's can be identified by bare aluminium finished valve covers, as oppossed to the 2003's Black finished covers. Outside, 2004 Mach 1's wear 40th anniversary tags ahead of the doors while the 2003 has the traditional Mustang Running Pony and Tri-Color bar"
"With such improvements in power and a relatively light curb weight of 3,380 lbs (1,533kg), the 2003 Mustang Mach 1 posted magazine test numbers that were impressive given its $29,305 price tag. Magazine tests by Motor Trend found numbers from 13.88 @ 101.9mph for the automatic equipped 2003 Mach 1 with a 5.6 sec 0-60, up to the 5 speed's blistering 13.2 @ 106.7 mph with a 4.7 sec 0-60mph time. All this while maintaining a decent 63.5 mph on a 600 foot slalom and .85g's on the skidpad, though the weight of the larger DOHC motor has created a tendancy to "Understeer" more than the IRS weight balanced SVT's and lower CG and lower curb weight Bullitt GTs with the same basic suspension and brakes."
"Limited in production, the 2003 and 2004 Mach 1's ended with the SN-95 New Edge platform with 9,652 2003's and 7,182 2004's being built . Plans at Ford again call for a mid-range model between the GT and Shelby GT500 (Shelby has already set out with a GT-H for Hertz rental like the legendary GT-350, as well as a buyable version) but it is unlikely to be another Mach 1 as rumors are that either the Boss or the Bullitt name will be used again"
Mach 1 reborn
"During the 1990's, the preeminant performance Mustang was the SVT Cobra. Following the departure of the Fox chassis in 1993 and the arrival of the SN-95 in 1994, Ford also sought to eliminate the 302. (Now termed in its metric 5.0 Liters) Drawing on its newly developed OHC architecture engines known as Modular motors, SVT created the 1996 and up Cobra around several variations of the 32 valve, all aluminium 4.6 Liter V-8. Below the SVT in performance was only the GT marque, reintroduced in 1982 with the 302 HO "5.0", later turning to the 16 Valve SOHC V-8 in 1996. While keeping pace with GM competition at speed, the sales on the new SN-95 style cars skyrocketed and by 2002, Ford Mustang sales topped both Firebird and Camaro sales combined. With GM's withdrawl from the "Pony Car wars" in 2002, Ford had a free hand at the whole market but nontheless created argueably the fastest stock Mustang of all (up until that time), the Supercharged 2003-2004 SVT Cobra. But concerns over a price gap between the GT and Cobra, as well as interest in keeping sales up before the release of the all new S197 Mustang, prompted the creation of two unique mid-range performance models. The 2001 "Bullitt" GT and the 2003 & 2004 Mach 1"
"Following the stir caused by the retro 2001 "Bullitt" (A lightly modified 2001 GT, named for the famed chase Mustang driven by Steve McQueen in the movie "Bullitt") Ford saw the value of heritage in the Mustang name and as a follow up, sought to revive the Mach 1 name. While similar to the Bullitt in the use of the Cobra's 13" Brembo front brakes and unique Tokico gas shocks, as well as lower and stiffer springs, the Mach 1 recieved a huge performance gain over the base GT in the form of a totally unique variant of the DOHC, 32 valve 4.6 Liter Modular V-8. Commonly known by Mach 1 owners as an "R" code DOHC,(for the unique VIN engine R code) this all-aluminium engine features the same high flow heads as the 2003-04 SVT Cobras, Australian Boss 260/290 (see Barra engine), Lincoln Aviator and Mercury Marauders, but has intake cams drawn from Ford's 5.4 Liter "Triton" V-8 to provide better low end torque. While on paper the 305(228kW) horsepower seems a loss when compared to the 1999 & 2001 SVT Cobras of a similar engine running 320hp(239kW), in practice the motor produced nearly identical power with more torque, some 320 claimed lb/ft (430NM), occuring at a much lower 4,000 rpms. Likewise, the Mach 1 had 10.1:1 compression as compared to the 99 & 02 Cobra's 9.85:1 and the Mach 1 had an aluminium block unique from the SVT aluminium blocks. The Mach 1 also featured the high redline of 6,800 rpms (5-speed cars) and fuel cut off at 7,000. Further differences included the use of Ford's 8.8 inch solid rear axle with a 3.55 final ratio (As opposed to SVT's Independant Rear Suspension) and the availability of a 4 speed automatic in addition to the Tremec sourced 5 speed manual. Factory steel "Box" cross section subframe connectors we also added to increase chassis stregth for both the added handling and to deal with the prodigious torque over the stock GT. Style wise, the Mach 1 was very distict from other Mustangs as it drew heavily from the 1970 Mach 1. In addition to the matte black spoiler and hood stripe, flat black chin spoiler, Mach 1 rocker panel stripes and Mach 1 badging on the rear, there were also faux Magnum 500 polished 17x8 alloy wheels. A retro themed interior was included with well bolstered dark grey leather seats featuring 70's style "Comfort Weave" textures, a 1970's style gauge cluster, a machined aluminium shift ball, aluminium pedals and the sole option to add aluminium look bezels on the dash. The most noticable difference visually from other Mustangs was the bulging hood with cutt-out and the return of a semi-legitimate "Shaker Hood". While physically identical in placement and function (The scoop is said to be built on the same tooling as the 1970 Mach 1) it only provides a portion of air to the motor routing to the air box ahead of the MAF. It does function well as a cold air "snorkle" and a partial Ram Air at speed. For 2004, the only change were the ratings for the motor from 305hp(228kW) to 310hp(232kW) for the manual and 308(230kW) for the auto cars, and a bump in torque from 320lb. ft.(430NM) to 335lb.ft. (454NM). 2004 Mach 1's can be identified by bare aluminium finished valve covers, as oppossed to the 2003's Black finished covers. Outside, 2004 Mach 1's wear 40th anniversary tags ahead of the doors while the 2003 has the traditional Mustang Running Pony and Tri-Color bar"
"With such improvements in power and a relatively light curb weight of 3,380 lbs (1,533kg), the 2003 Mustang Mach 1 posted magazine test numbers that were impressive given its $29,305 price tag. Magazine tests by Motor Trend found numbers from 13.88 @ 101.9mph for the automatic equipped 2003 Mach 1 with a 5.6 sec 0-60, up to the 5 speed's blistering 13.2 @ 106.7 mph with a 4.7 sec 0-60mph time. All this while maintaining a decent 63.5 mph on a 600 foot slalom and .85g's on the skidpad, though the weight of the larger DOHC motor has created a tendancy to "Understeer" more than the IRS weight balanced SVT's and lower CG and lower curb weight Bullitt GTs with the same basic suspension and brakes."
"Limited in production, the 2003 and 2004 Mach 1's ended with the SN-95 New Edge platform with 9,652 2003's and 7,182 2004's being built . Plans at Ford again call for a mid-range model between the GT and Shelby GT500 (Shelby has already set out with a GT-H for Hertz rental like the legendary GT-350, as well as a buyable version) but it is unlikely to be another Mach 1 as rumors are that either the Boss or the Bullitt name will be used again"
