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programers diablo vs. hypertech etc?

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Old 11-28-2004, 06:57 PM   #1
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Default programers diablo vs. hypertech etc?

i just changed my rear gears, and wheels, speedometer ****ed up beyond belief, need a programmer i guess... what is the best one out there, ive seen diablo and hypertech, are there others???
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Old 11-28-2004, 07:02 PM   #2
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If your just looking into a programmer to fix your speedo, doesn't really matter which one you buy. [8D]
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:21 AM   #3
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i had a hypertech made my car run too lean. got a diablo and have had no issues. recomend it to anyone..........personaly
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Old 11-29-2004, 01:25 PM   #4
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Diablosport is ten times better, but the hypertech allows you to run off of 87 octane fuel, wherease the Diablosport requires premium pumps.
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Old 11-29-2004, 05:09 PM   #5
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i just changed my rear gears, and wheels, speedometer ****ed up beyond belief, need a programmer i guess... what is the best one out there, ive seen diablo and hypertech, are there others???
If your whole purpose in getting, say, a Predator, is to change the speedo calibration, you are overkilling it. If you are going to use the predator for tuning and other functions, cool. If all you want out of the unit is for speedo recalibration, you could instead get your ECU reflashed, saving you some $. Steeda can do this; Saleen can do this. It costs a fration of the price of a tuner. Everything I have said to this point assumes that you already have your car tuned. If it isn't tuned, then you'll get your $'s worth out of a Predator
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Old 11-29-2004, 05:39 PM   #6
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Based on the small price difference i'd go with the predator just for stuff like datalogging and the better screen. It looks like the best of those tuners.
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Old 11-29-2004, 05:54 PM   #7
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Another vote for a Predator here...

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Old 11-29-2004, 05:56 PM   #8
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ORIGINAL: propellerhead

Another vote for a Predator here...

I'm with propellerhead. Buying one in 14-16 days.
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:48 PM   #9
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ok seems like predator is winning by landslide, i noticed that about the predator running only on premium gas, budget is no issue for me, is it better for the car, what are the pros and cons???,
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:58 PM   #10
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oh one last question, what the hell is hte differnce between getting a chip or a programmer, if you get a programmer there is no need for a chip right? or do chips do some things programmers dont????
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:04 PM   #11
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on the octane thing, propellerhead made it pretty simple for me. It is only a few bucks a month extra, to bump performance.

No real cons AFAIK. Depending on how much you bump the tranny settings, it'll stress that a bit. Pretty much, if you don't fiddle with stuff you don't know you won't really break anything. Oh, this was assuming an auto tranny. If you have one, you can tighten the shifts and all.

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Old 11-29-2004, 11:10 PM   #12
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If you have a programmer you don't need a chip. A chip has its purpose however. One of them is those flip chips where you can have 3 tunes and change them via a switch. However, if you don't need to change tunes in a matter of seconds/minutes the programmer is fine. Plus, you can't dynamically change things on a chip - it must be sent off for a new tune(s). By dynamically, I mean on your own. The programmer, you set the settings and upload the tune.

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Old 11-29-2004, 11:10 PM   #13
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ihave a stick shift....thanks, anybody else got any imput...
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:12 PM   #14
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hey ceyko where you buying yours from, i just did a quick search and this was the best price i found http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/home.php?cat=40, its like 350 free overnight shipping once you use a 50 dollar rebate???? any other sites with bettter prices????
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:36 PM   #15
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Not to be retarded, but it was going to be from where propellerhead ordered his. Problem is I can't find most of his emails, even though I did not nuke them. (I have to use web based email[:@]) So, I'd get with him.

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Old 11-29-2004, 11:42 PM   #16
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norman, after reviewing some PMs - I am pretty sure that is where he got his from.

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Old 11-29-2004, 11:50 PM   #17
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you mean he got it from motorhaven?
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Old 11-30-2004, 12:20 PM   #18
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Check DiabloSport's FAQs. Premium fuel is used so the timing can be advances. Same thing as a Timing Advancer but you can set the timing in two RPM bands, not just one setting for everything. If you really want to run 87 octane, you can install the Performance Tune then back off the timing until you don't hear knocking. But you won't get the most out of the Performance Tune. From what I've read, the timing and air/fuel ratios are tweaked for power. Backing off the timing will lessen the benefits from the Performance Tune.

Chips and programmers do about the same thing but in a different way. There's lots of info all over the web about these. The chip is plugged into the EEC and it takes over some of the signals. The programmer rewrites the tables in the EEC. The warranty ****'s at the Ford dealer can easily spot a chip thats hanging off the EEC. An updated table in the EEC's EEPROM is hard to find. A chip won't let you read and clear diagnostic fault codes in any OBD-II Ford. It won't let you do any data logging either. You need to go back to a professional tuner to make updates to the chip. With a programmer, you do them yourself. If that's not your thing you can still load tunes that a professional tuner creates for you. The only advantage a chip has over a programmer is the flip switch feature that lets you switch between tunes as fast as you can flip a switch. The programmer takes about a minute to rewrite the tables.

I got mine from Motorhaven. Great fast service. Don't freak out and whine like a brat when their online order status page doesn't show any updates.

I updated my cardomain thing with a page about the Predator.
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Old 11-30-2004, 01:37 PM   #19
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I got mine from Motorhaven. Great fast service. Don't freak out and whine like a brat when their online order status page doesn't show any updates.
i wonder who you are talking about..... too funny!!!! [sm=itsok.gif]
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:59 AM   #20
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I have the predator, works well. I recommend it.
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