Typhoon vs P-51
05-09-2007, 05:46 AM
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RE: Typhoon vs P-51
I have heard many many good things about the Typhoon and watched a small dyno session on speed about the intake swap, they claimed they got 31 or 32RWHP out of this just on the typhoon and TB alone. It was on national TV so it had to be right,,, right? LOL
The only bad thing that I have heard about the Typhoon is that its made outside the country and is of poor quality. I have never seen anything to back that up, just a TV broadcast on it making some serious numbers.
-Eric-
The only bad thing that I have heard about the Typhoon is that its made outside the country and is of poor quality. I have never seen anything to back that up, just a TV broadcast on it making some serious numbers.
-Eric-
05-09-2007, 06:55 AM
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RE: Typhoon vs P-51
Why bother with an aftermarket intake at all? Unless you have a built motor its nothing but a waste of money.
I have yet to see a intake come out on the market that will acutally improve power output on a stock shortblock car (unless it was a FI car) keeping in the safe RPM range. even if you pick up a little at the top of the band, your gonna lose enough down low that its not worth it.
Before I would do a intake I would be looking at cams and headwork, not to mention the bottom end. I have said it time and time agian, the stock 2v intake is a fairly decent peice for a stock shortblock setup keeping the RPM under or around 6K.
I have yet to see a intake come out on the market that will acutally improve power output on a stock shortblock car (unless it was a FI car) keeping in the safe RPM range. even if you pick up a little at the top of the band, your gonna lose enough down low that its not worth it.
Before I would do a intake I would be looking at cams and headwork, not to mention the bottom end. I have said it time and time agian, the stock 2v intake is a fairly decent peice for a stock shortblock setup keeping the RPM under or around 6K.
05-09-2007, 11:16 AM
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RE: Typhoon vs P-51
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
Why bother with an aftermarket intake at all? Unless you have a built motor its nothing but a waste of money.
I have yet to see a intake come out on the market that will acutally improve power output on a stock shortblock car (unless it was a FI car) keeping in the safe RPM range. even if you pick up a little at the top of the band, your gonna lose enough down low that its not worth it.
Before I would do a intake I would be looking at cams and headwork, not to mention the bottom end. I have said it time and time agian, the stock 2v intake is a fairly decent peice for a stock shortblock setup keeping the RPM under or around 6K.
Why bother with an aftermarket intake at all? Unless you have a built motor its nothing but a waste of money.
I have yet to see a intake come out on the market that will acutally improve power output on a stock shortblock car (unless it was a FI car) keeping in the safe RPM range. even if you pick up a little at the top of the band, your gonna lose enough down low that its not worth it.
Before I would do a intake I would be looking at cams and headwork, not to mention the bottom end. I have said it time and time agian, the stock 2v intake is a fairly decent peice for a stock shortblock setup keeping the RPM under or around 6K.
Everything I've read on intake swaps and 2V motors seems to indicate it's a waste of time and money unless the motor is built or plans are in place for the motor to be built at a later date.
As for the TV shows shilling for products, take a look at the things they test and then look at who sponsors the show.
Also look carefully on the shelves in garage and see the placement of certain products. Royal Purple fluids for one.
Not that there is anything wrong with those products, just that it's in the best interest of the show to make their sponsors
products look good or at the very least not look bad....
It usually goes something like this: "Gee John, we really got some serious gains on the dyno at 5700 RPM.
Yea Jim, that's going to be noticeable for sure!"
What they don't tell you is that they lost serious power in the RPM range most people are driving in the majority of the time.
Stuff like that.....
05-09-2007, 02:50 PM
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RE: Typhoon vs P-51
Hey Code you say you need to make serious hp for the P-51. I'm in the process of having a motor built now. So what would be your suggestion on a cut off point hp wise to use the P-51, or would it make a difference over the hardballer? J
05-09-2007, 02:59 PM
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RE: Typhoon vs P-51
ORIGINAL: undecided.steve
+1
Everything I've read on intake swaps and 2V motors seems to indicate it's a waste of time and money unless the motor is built or plans are in place for the motor to be built at a later date.
As for the TV shows shilling for products, take a look at the things they test and then look at who sponsors the show.
Also look carefully on the shelves in garage and see the placement of certain products. Royal Purple fluids for one.
Not that there is anything wrong with those products, just that it's in the best interest of the show to make their sponsors
products look good or at the very least not look bad....
It usually goes something like this: "Gee John, we really got some serious gains on the dyno at 5700 RPM.
Yea Jim, that's going to be noticeable for sure!"
What they don't tell you is that they lost serious power in the RPM range most people are driving in the majority of the time.
Stuff like that.....
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
Why bother with an aftermarket intake at all? Unless you have a built motor its nothing but a waste of money.
I have yet to see a intake come out on the market that will acutally improve power output on a stock shortblock car (unless it was a FI car) keeping in the safe RPM range. even if you pick up a little at the top of the band, your gonna lose enough down low that its not worth it.
Before I would do a intake I would be looking at cams and headwork, not to mention the bottom end. I have said it time and time agian, the stock 2v intake is a fairly decent peice for a stock shortblock setup keeping the RPM under or around 6K.
Why bother with an aftermarket intake at all? Unless you have a built motor its nothing but a waste of money.
I have yet to see a intake come out on the market that will acutally improve power output on a stock shortblock car (unless it was a FI car) keeping in the safe RPM range. even if you pick up a little at the top of the band, your gonna lose enough down low that its not worth it.
Before I would do a intake I would be looking at cams and headwork, not to mention the bottom end. I have said it time and time agian, the stock 2v intake is a fairly decent peice for a stock shortblock setup keeping the RPM under or around 6K.
Everything I've read on intake swaps and 2V motors seems to indicate it's a waste of time and money unless the motor is built or plans are in place for the motor to be built at a later date.
As for the TV shows shilling for products, take a look at the things they test and then look at who sponsors the show.
Also look carefully on the shelves in garage and see the placement of certain products. Royal Purple fluids for one.
Not that there is anything wrong with those products, just that it's in the best interest of the show to make their sponsors
products look good or at the very least not look bad....
It usually goes something like this: "Gee John, we really got some serious gains on the dyno at 5700 RPM.
Yea Jim, that's going to be noticeable for sure!"
What they don't tell you is that they lost serious power in the RPM range most people are driving in the majority of the time.
Stuff like that.....
05-09-2007, 03:47 PM
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RE: Typhoon vs P-51
ORIGINAL: 2002GTAUTOVERT
if u read further down that link, it states there was NO loss of power throughout the rpm range. the only problem i see if the gain is near redline, and i almost never redline my vehicle unless im at the track. btw, the car they did it on they said was completely stock, with a dyno sheet to back it up. i still dont buy into it though
ORIGINAL: undecided.steve
+1
Everything I've read on intake swaps and 2V motors seems to indicate it's a waste of time and money unless the motor is built or plans are in place for the motor to be built at a later date.
As for the TV shows shilling for products, take a look at the things they test and then look at who sponsors the show.
Also look carefully on the shelves in garage and see the placement of certain products. Royal Purple fluids for one.
Not that there is anything wrong with those products, just that it's in the best interest of the show to make their sponsors
products look good or at the very least not look bad....
It usually goes something like this: "Gee John, we really got some serious gains on the dyno at 5700 RPM.
Yea Jim, that's going to be noticeable for sure!"
What they don't tell you is that they lost serious power in the RPM range most people are driving in the majority of the time.
Stuff like that.....
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
Why bother with an aftermarket intake at all? Unless you have a built motor its nothing but a waste of money.
I have yet to see a intake come out on the market that will acutally improve power output on a stock shortblock car (unless it was a FI car) keeping in the safe RPM range. even if you pick up a little at the top of the band, your gonna lose enough down low that its not worth it.
Before I would do a intake I would be looking at cams and headwork, not to mention the bottom end. I have said it time and time agian, the stock 2v intake is a fairly decent peice for a stock shortblock setup keeping the RPM under or around 6K.
Why bother with an aftermarket intake at all? Unless you have a built motor its nothing but a waste of money.
I have yet to see a intake come out on the market that will acutally improve power output on a stock shortblock car (unless it was a FI car) keeping in the safe RPM range. even if you pick up a little at the top of the band, your gonna lose enough down low that its not worth it.
Before I would do a intake I would be looking at cams and headwork, not to mention the bottom end. I have said it time and time agian, the stock 2v intake is a fairly decent peice for a stock shortblock setup keeping the RPM under or around 6K.
Everything I've read on intake swaps and 2V motors seems to indicate it's a waste of time and money unless the motor is built or plans are in place for the motor to be built at a later date.
As for the TV shows shilling for products, take a look at the things they test and then look at who sponsors the show.
Also look carefully on the shelves in garage and see the placement of certain products. Royal Purple fluids for one.
Not that there is anything wrong with those products, just that it's in the best interest of the show to make their sponsors
products look good or at the very least not look bad....
It usually goes something like this: "Gee John, we really got some serious gains on the dyno at 5700 RPM.
Yea Jim, that's going to be noticeable for sure!"
What they don't tell you is that they lost serious power in the RPM range most people are driving in the majority of the time.
Stuff like that.....
When you start looking at the few independent tests (or users) out there you see that there are plenty of losses down low, and the cars dont' pick up anywhere near the power levels they claim.
Plain and simple, you won't see any signficant gains on a stock car, and will loose power down low. Its only worth it on a built motor/shortblock setup.
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