Help with having no ABS
12-09-2007, 12:45 AM
#12
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RE: Help with having no ABS
ORIGINAL: incubus1275
I hate ABS with a burning passion. My advice to you would be to find a place where you can practice modulating your brakes better. On wet asfault the fastest way to slow down is 20% slip of your tires and ABS can not do that so well. It is a fact that ABS takes longer to stop on dry asfault and someone who knows how to brake properly without ABS can stop faster on all surfaces. And in snow, ABS really sucks because w/o ABS the piling effect from locked wheels helps you stop.
I unplugged my ABS because i've hit a guardrail in the rain. I was going around a corner, the rear stepped out and I counter steered full right and slammed the brakes but ABS kept my car going in a circle instead of sliding sideways so I tapped the gaurdrail with the bumper....soooo pissed off. I just practice in the rain in an empty parking lot in the middle of nowhere.
I hate ABS with a burning passion. My advice to you would be to find a place where you can practice modulating your brakes better. On wet asfault the fastest way to slow down is 20% slip of your tires and ABS can not do that so well. It is a fact that ABS takes longer to stop on dry asfault and someone who knows how to brake properly without ABS can stop faster on all surfaces. And in snow, ABS really sucks because w/o ABS the piling effect from locked wheels helps you stop.
I unplugged my ABS because i've hit a guardrail in the rain. I was going around a corner, the rear stepped out and I counter steered full right and slammed the brakes but ABS kept my car going in a circle instead of sliding sideways so I tapped the gaurdrail with the bumper....soooo pissed off. I just practice in the rain in an empty parking lot in the middle of nowhere.
I don't see any advantage whatsoever in acutally locking up the tires. And its not all about stopping distance in any case... its about stopping as fast as possible without sliding the tires and loosing control. Being stopped 20 feet early does you no good if you did so upside down in the ditch.. not that I agree you would stop faster sliding the tires anyway.
Pulling the ABS controls out is, IMO, not a good idea. Like I said, I would have to see definate proof to believe that ABS will not stop faster... ABS applies the maximum force possible without letting the tires slide... which to me sounds like the best idea.
ABS FTW
12-09-2007, 04:04 AM
#15
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RE: Help with having no ABS
yep i also have no abs due to mod's done previously.. take it to a nice parking lot and if you have tires for the season m+s tires like the pirelli's you should get the hang of it the worst scenerio is black ice i live in michigan and have been driving mustangs since i was like 16 or so and learned alot without abs..test your skills out fast stops see how long it takes for your car to stop and fast take offs to see what the car does leans etc.. hit the brakes and count see how long it takes to stop and when on the road and the snow comes take it easy and remember not to ride the bumpers and you should do fine.. good luck and take care tires with the m+s mud and snow tires make a difference..
12-09-2007, 11:04 AM
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RE: Help with having no ABS
ORIGINAL: rogerwilco357
yep i also have no abs due to mod's done previously.. take it to a nice parking lot and if you have tires for the season m+s tires like the pirelli's you should get the hang of it the worst scenerio is black ice i live in michigan and have been driving mustangs since i was like 16 or so and learned alot without abs..test your skills out fast stops see how long it takes for your car to stop and fast take offs to see what the car does leans etc.. hit the brakes and count see how long it takes to stop and when on the road and the snow comes take it easy and remember not to ride the bumpers and you should do fine.. good luck and take care tires with the m+s mud and snow tires make a difference..
yep i also have no abs due to mod's done previously.. take it to a nice parking lot and if you have tires for the season m+s tires like the pirelli's you should get the hang of it the worst scenerio is black ice i live in michigan and have been driving mustangs since i was like 16 or so and learned alot without abs..test your skills out fast stops see how long it takes for your car to stop and fast take offs to see what the car does leans etc.. hit the brakes and count see how long it takes to stop and when on the road and the snow comes take it easy and remember not to ride the bumpers and you should do fine.. good luck and take care tires with the m+s mud and snow tires make a difference..
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