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Old 04-11-2008, 11:30 AM
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Looking for some help from you guys I have about $4k to spend on performance and I don’t know what route is best to take. One involves a 4v cobra motor swap (99 cobra motor with @40k miles for about $3500 installed) and the other is opening the engine and working on it. I have a 98gt with about 55k miles on it and it runs well. I was talking with a guy on the phone today and he was saying he was currently building a 98gt motor that would be around 435hp NA and support about 1500hp for about $6500. I don’t want a supercharger yet, this is a toy car that doesn’t come out much, I like the bends and hit the ¼ mile track every once in a while. What are your opinions on what route I should take?
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:31 AM
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i dont get it....you dont want a supercharger yet, but you are considering a 500hp car?>

spend the 4k on a supercharger!! lol
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:54 AM
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i want more NA hp before i supercharge it, so when i do supergharge it i can put more boost to it safely and getBIGhp numbers. Im not going to sell the car, i want a lot of hp but dont want to take backward steps.
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:56 AM
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and done. spend your 3.5k leftover on something else.
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:57 AM
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Oh and I forgot to mention, you can gain close to 70-80 rwhp doing a pi swap for less than half the price of a 4v swap.
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:58 AM
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so you want more hp and you want to stay n/a.

alrighty....so now some details about what you have now? any mods at all? is your motor pi or not?
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i still have a non pi motor, as far as upgrades i have pretty much full boltons, tubular kmember, aarms, coilovers, high flow cats on a custom exhaust, shift kit, 3.73's, big brake kit, steeda ultralite wheels w/nitto 555's, diablo tuner, and probaly some other little stuff a forgot about, i still need to do the rear end stuff. im kind of leaning toward boreing, stroking and forgeing the the engine soi dont have a engine laying around that i have to do something with, and id imagine a sc would love that worked motor!! as far as the nx, to impractical, im not at the strip that much (maybe later)
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:18 PM
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Oh and I forgot to mention, you can gain close to 70-80 rwhp doing a pi swap for less than half the price of a 4v swap.
thats seams to be a little optimistic for a pi swap, isn't it?
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i still have a non pi motor, as far as upgrades i have pretty much full boltons, tubular kmember, aarms, coilovers, high flow cats on a custom exhaust, shift kit, 3.73's, big brake kit, steeda ultralite wheels w/nitto 555's, diablo tuner, and probaly some other little stuff a forgot about, i still need to do the rear end stuff. im kind of leaning toward boreing, stroking and forgeing the the engine soi dont have a engine laying around that i have to do something with, and id imagine a sc would love that worked motor!! as far as the nx, to impractical, im not at the strip that much (maybe later)
you've got some money lying around it sounds like so look into buying an aftermarket modular block (like the BOSS) to bore/stroke over. The 4.6s can be stroked to about 5.0, but it's impractical for many reasons, the main one being that from the factory they already have almost a square stroke/bore. Much more power to be had boring it over without making it unstable
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Oh and I forgot to mention, you can gain close to 70-80 rwhp doing a pi swap for less than half the price of a 4v swap.
thats seams to be a little optimistic for a pi swap, isn't it?
absolutely not. Most PI swaps begin making 155-160 rwhp (depending on slushbox or rowbox) and end up around 240-245 rwhp.
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