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Very hard to shift into 1st gear, please share some insight!

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Old 01-01-2009, 12:09 AM   #1
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After owning my car for about 4 mths now, the tranny has been really getting on my nerves. Whenever I come to a dead stop, put it in neutral, and try and get back into the first, I find it very difficult (sometimes)

I usually have to fiddle around with the tranny, for example, try and put it into second then slide into first and if that dosnt work, try third and then first. This problem is intermittent, i.e. it only happens sometimes. I do not know whether it is the design of the tranny or if its a problem. I dont usually like to force things in, so I keep fiddling till it works (and its holding up traffic at lights).

ps. there are no grinds going into any gear, so I hope its not the synchros. Could it be the fluid? The car did sit for a good year.

Please help, if its normal. I can deal with it
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:10 AM   #2
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if anyone knows away to avoid this problem (like the trick with reverse so it dosnt grind)..share
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:26 AM   #3
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Try adjusting the clutch
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:28 AM   #4
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By the way, I had a strong feeling it was the clutch, because it never happens on a cold start. How do I adjust the clutch?
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:32 AM   #5
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If its a stock quadrant, then put the car in 1st, engine off, push the pedal to the floor and let it out, then you use your arm and pull the clutch pedal up towards you and see if you can feel it click. Rinse and repeat
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:56 AM   #6
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I got lost when you said rinse. Please explain what Ill have to rinse (will I need oil on hand) for the clutch. Forgive me if I sound ignorant, Im new to these cars.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:00 AM   #7
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I got lost when you said rinse. Please explain what Ill have to rinse (will I need oil on hand) for the clutch. Forgive me if I sound ignorant, Im new to these cars.
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You dont have to rinse, I was simply saying repeat the process.. It was a figure of speech
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:15 AM   #8
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oh lmao...believe it or not I actually thought something was gonna leak out if i did that. maybe its just so late at night....ill try what you said tomorrow, and let you know how it goes. thanks for the help.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:17 AM   #9
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Question though, whats happening when it clicks? Am I basically lowering the release point?
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You are taking up the slack in the clutch cable. I really dont think the pedal itself will be affected that much.
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:03 PM   #11
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Be careful, you'll shoot your eye out kid. hahaha

Seriously, WhiteFox seems to know his **** about these cars, so I'd say that the clutch adjustment should fix your problem. As a madder of fact, I'm gonna do this on my car as well as my tranny is kinda hard to get into first at times.
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Almost every stick vehicle ive ever driven is harder goin into 1st than the other gears for some reason. Probablly cause they were all worn out haha. For reverse i usually go 4th gear then reverse. I got used to doin this on my f150 wit a unsychronized reverse and low gear.
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The more I think about it, I think what he is experiencing is sort of "normal"... I know he said when he stops, but its like tryna shift into first at low speeds (10 mph or so) and you get that little clunk and then it slides in. Sometimes, when you come to a stop, the revs are still ~1100 (PCM has that rpm decay) and it may seem harder to get into. Try adjusting the pedal, then try sliding it into 2nd then 1st
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I tried pulling the pedal up, but it wont budge. I can feel it move just a bit (maybe thats the click), but I was really expecting a loud click. I feel like pulling any harder would break it.
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:52 PM   #15
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Its not a huge noticeable click. There is a manual way to adjust it, but I wouldn't bother. Especially if you are having a hard enough time doing this, I tried the manual way, but didn't like it.

http://www.corral.net/tech/drivetrain/clutcha.htm
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i did that corral.net clutch adjustment ^, its the only thing that has worked for me

and i dont think you have successfully done it yet if you didnt like it, you will hear a click and know that you did change it if it does work, its kinda tricky to do but you will know when you do it correctly and will be able to do it whenever you want. i can do it with my toe now
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:49 AM   #17
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Seems I found the right thread. My 2000 GT is a b***h to put into 1st occasionally too. I tried the owners manual way, can see the pawl lifting but no click after pushing down. So the cable must be pretty tight, if I ease it in gently from second you can feel the gear is spinning against the shifter as you slide it in with the clutch pedal pressed. I bought this car couple weeks ago from an old guy, couldn't pass up a 2000 with 52k on it!
I'm planning on changing the clutch in a couple weeks just for piece of mind, not because it needs it, hopefully that will help. If anyone else has any input please get in touch with me here!
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:21 PM   #18
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Hi I have a 2011 GT. I have a hard time getting it to go into first gear too (sometimes).

Will WhiteFoxGT's fix work for a 2011? I am female so exactly how hard do I need to pull the clutch up towards me. Don't want to break it.

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